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  • Here are a few rough transalation of vol 16 preview(from annons)

    Vol 16 Page 1

    Spoiler
    The bell is signaling the end of classes.
    After making courses available online teachers are no longer watching students from [classroom] pulpit, its the same even now.
    The sensation of freedom from after school didn't change.
    Today school was specially tumultuous, of course it was, today was Tuesday December 25, 2098, last day from second school term of 2098 school year.
    Classes unusually ended in the morning and there wasn't the corresponding ending ceremony or report card delivery.
    Students are fully accountable for their own test scores.
    Parents are only called case students are in danger of not graduating or promoting, even so students are accessing information about periodic tests that would not be taken and scores from normal curriculum including global assessment, while doing so two types of expressions could be seen, first high students displaying high spirits and dispirited ones, those same expressions could be seen even between somewhat unique students attending E class at newly established Magic Engineering Course, the action of confirming scores was the same even in such class, [yes] even among Tatsuya classmates.

    Vol 16 Page 2

    Spoiler
    After confirming somewhat satisfying results Tatsuya dropped his portable terminal and was about to rise from his seat he turned around after sensing strong sight coming from next seat.
    [Any problems Mitsuki?]
    Mizuki answer was clearly bad.
    [No...Nothing]
    Actually Mizuki wanted to ask Tatsuya the standard question about test score but she stopped midway while realizing she is also supposed to say her own test score, although Mizuki scored above average from their class , she still lacked resolution to say her own score after Tatsuya.
    [Really? Then see you later]
    [Okay, see you later!]
    After exchanging greetings Tatsuya headed to the student council room while Mizuki went to art room.
    It was very dark at five thirty pm, both club and student council activities were finished when Tatsuya and his usual group headed to meet at Eine Breeze.
    By following the school road and entering an single turnoff they arrived the Cafe often frequented by Tatsuya group, actually it turned into their stop point. Although their gathering was normally short in time, while inside they are very noisy yet they never soiled the furniture and are probably regarded as good loyal customers by the establishment [staff].
    [Well then, it was one day delay but without concern please chant !]

    unorganised side stuff

    Spoiler
    The preview is in 3 parts: Tatsuya is at a Christmas party, after Honoka tries to invite him to the New Years shrine but she was rejected since he had something to do; after returning home Miyuki have a monologue about their relationship; next day Tatsuya goes to FLT to research his new magic, also he was invited by the Kurobas for a meeting.
    The monologue is just basically about how she doesn't want to get married to anyone other than Tatsuya. The new magic Im not really sure.
    Although students joining Magic Engineering Course are less concerned over scores from practical tests, gathering certain denomination is indispensable in order to graduate, even HE is concerned if was able to gather enough points or not.
    [obs:Seems like the author will explain how japanese education system works in 209X and difference with current one]

    Miyuki monolouge before the meeting Posted by fujin

    Spoiler
    Courtesy of Animesuki

    Perhaps the best scene of the preview featuring best girl, translated by me. Refer to image 7 from OP
    () denotes Miyuki's lines, <> denotes mirror Miyuki's and [] denotes my notes or just the implications if I can't translate directly
    pg 15, last line:
    She sat in front of the bureau mirror, and had a heart-to-heart talk with herself on the other side.
    pg 16:
    (...Yes, this is unavoidable. I cannot do anything about it)
    The Miyuki in the mirror gave a heartfelt reply:
    <Is it really unavoidable? Do you really agree to this?>
    The voice from the mirror was slightly younger. [as in, the Miyuki on the other side is younger]
    (Yes... It is an unavoidable fact that Onii-sama and I are siblings. (I) must agree to it, and so (I) shall.)
    <Lies! I will never agree to something like this!>
    (Even if I don't consent to this at all, I have no choice but to give in, "Miyuki". Because Onii-sama and I are true siblings.)
    <Must you concede because you are true siblings!?>
    (It is not a question of whether I concede or do not concede. Siblings cannot be married. I already knew that to begin with, and I never hoped to love Onii-sama as a woman. If I never hoped for it, is it abnormal to give up on it?)
    <Lies! Why then, is "Miyuki" so against this unknown fiancé who may or may not even exist!>
    pg17:
    (Isn't it a mother's duty to be wed and to breed children? Onii-sama would [only lose his job and I can't have that])
    <You can just leave the children to the babysitters. After all, the head of the Yotsuba will have their hands full with work. There's no way they can afford to spend all their time with their children.>
    Miyuki stared hard at her own face, reflected in the mirror. She didn't realize that her arguments were all so petty and easily countered.
    The young girl in the mirror began to speak. Words that provoked Miyuki who couldn't face her true self.
    <Even if you married another man, Onii-sama has countless other uses. You don't even need to love the man you married to fulfill the duty of a Magician. As long as you birth a child, no one's going to complain. "Miyuki", what you really object to is not the marriage itself.>
    (Stop)
    Miyuki wanted to cover her ears.
    <"Miyuki", your true self desires...>
    (Stop!)
    Miyuki wanted to turn her back to herself in the mirror.
    pg18:
    <What you really objected to was:>
    (Stop...!)
    Even so, no matter how hard Miyuki shook her head, she could not defeat the mirror.
    <To be anyone's wife except Onii-sama's.>
    She could no longer raise her voice against her own heart.
    <To make love to anyone except Onii-sama.>
    In the mirror was a pair of frightened eyes. She who never wanted to hold those thoughts. She who held back her own heart.
    <To be unable to become Onii-sama's bride. To be unable to make love to Onii-sama. To be unable to love Onii-sama as a woman!>
    "Ah...!"
    Grief leaking from trembled lips, her body crumbled to the floor from her seat.
    With the mirror out of view, she was freed from her curse.
    "But, it can't be helped."
    Thoughts leaked from her body in the form of her voice. Her conflicting emotions were now one.
    "Because I am Onii-sama's sister. Because I am Onii-sama's true sibling."
    The feelings that she could no longer hold in her heart spilled out one-by-one.
    "It is unforgivable to love a brother as a woman. The world will not forgive it. Even Onii-sama will think it is abnormal.
    pg19:
    He would surely find such a concept disgusting." Alone in the apartment, Miyuki laid bare her thoughts in confession. Because there was no one to hear her, she could be honest to herself.
    "I don't care what the world thinks. If people point fingers behind my back, I can take the ostracism. But, if Onii-sama were to label me as someone disgusting... I wouldn't be able to stand it...!"
    She never believed that her feelings were sinful.
    If she could be forgiven by a single person, it would not even be God.
    "That's why it cannot be helped."
    Miyuki stopped confessing. Her flowing feelings turned from words to tears, and spilled from her eyes that carried them.


    Pics

    Spoiler

    Family Tree Templete

    Lina comeback

    Candidate 1

    Candidate 2

    Guardians

    Maya reveals Tatsuya shocked

    Miyuki Monologue to mirror


    Tatsuya demonstrates his new magic

    Spoiler
    Credit: runningnooblet on reddit

    Pg 278:
    Tatsuya faced the audience and began to explain in a loud voice:
    "The new magic 'Baryon Lance' is a sure-kill magic against organic beings. For this reason, the demonstration will be performed on flesh and blood. Those who do not like unnecessary killing, it is recommended that you temporarily move to another room."
    There were some faces that contorted after the warning, but not a single person moved. This meant that everyone around was truly affiliated with the Yotsuba.
    While wondering just what kind of exhibition this was going to be, Tatsuya pulled out a Silver Horn Custom 'Trident' from the case, customized solely for this magic.
    Taking the Trident pistol that he would usually dual wield with, he readied only a single pistol, with an extra bayonet attached to the tip. The bayonet was quite long, creating a rather unbalanced trademark look to it.
    pg 279:
    Tatsuya pointed the bayonet at the caged pig. Casually, he pulled the trigger, simultaneously activating the magic processes.
    [Material: Baryon Disassembly]
    The bayonet blade atom's nuclei split from it. In order to do this, the atoms were disassembled into the Proton, Neutron and Electron, then had the Baryons split from it.
    [Execute FAE Process: Gather Particles]
    Just as FAE theory dictated, the particles that were loosened from the bonds of physics clustered into a disc instead of dispersing naturally. The untargeted leptons, electrons and protons were held in place.
    [Execute FAE Process: Fire]
    The disc-shaped cluster of Baryons shot out like a spear. True to the FAE Theory, the cluster of Baryons exceeded the speed limits of magic, reaching 10,000 kilometers per second.
    [Material: Regenerate]
    All the processes were reversed.

    Tatsuya and miyuki dialouge after mayas talk with tatsuya

    Spoiler

    Courtesy of yellowsnake

    Midnight is coming near, but Miyuki have not come back yet.

    But on the contrary, the bed room have already been prepared.

    The room is a single chamber room, but there is only one set of bedding. However, there are two pillows.

    [Onii-Sama, I'm sorry that I've come back late]

    And at the most unfortunate time, Miyuki came back.

    [This is-------!]

    The door was wide open, by looking at the state of the room, just entering the room, they will naturally greet eyes.

    [Miyuki, this is not my--]

    "Doing" was on the tip of his tongue, but Tatsuya failed to say it.

    [Onii-sama, this is.......]

    [No, this is not my doing. After I came back from my shower it is already in this state]

    [I see........]

    [umm, O-Onii-sama]

    [What is it?]

    [Nothing, umm, can I still call you Onii-sama? Or do you want me to call you Tat, T.......]

    [Just call me like you always called me]

    [Then, Onii-Sama........ our talk with auntie, is it over?]

    [That, of course........]

    It is now here, it was only a matter of course, Tatsuya originally wanted to answer, but he immediate noticed Miyuki's question had another meaning.

    [Ah, it's over. That matter with Aunt tell me the reason, I understand]

    [Yeah, so........]

    [Say Onii-sama, about us not being brother and sisters]

    [It's false]

    Tatsuya's answer is extremely simple.

    [Why would Aunt tell such a lie?]

    [The explanation will be hard to understand, but it seems to contribute to that reason that you and I are getting married]

    Maya's explanation is indeed hard to understand, but Tatsuya understood many things. But whether or not this is good for Miyuki, Tatsuya cannot determine.

    [But we are obviously brother and sister.....isn't it?]

    [Registration and DNA identification seems similar]

    [But with Yotsuba's power, they can do anything.......]

    [Children born like that do not have to worry about the aspect of genetic factors]

    [Why do you say that?]

    Looking into her eyes, Tatsuya decided to tell her.

    [Your body does not have anything that would cause abnormal factor genes]

    [Because you have a modifier]

    [I am, modifier.........]

    [You are made out of father and mother's fertilized egg, based on collection of Yotsuba's science and magic, creating the "perfect modifier' overcoming shortcomings of the body, the highest masterpiece that the Yotsuba has ever created]

    [Well....I will never leave Onii-sama, I will not fall into the netherworld, right?]

    She feared, this body will not have a stable life. If one day she suddenly stops breathing, then she cannot be with Tatsuya.

    [From aunt's tone, it seem that your resistance for continuous magic use is higher than mines]

    [Can I........still live with Onii-sama?]

    [Based on Aunt's words, you will live longer than me]

    And so, heading that she and Onii-sama will live an equal amount of time, the fact that she was the regulator became irrelevant.

    [Onii-sama is still my sibling......but I inherited the factor, so Onii-sama and I are completely different things]

    Tatsuya's heart is like a thousand horses galloping through mud.

    Indeed Maya said, Miyuki's genetic factor is adjusted, transformation is more appropriate, on genetic distance, the aunt and nephew relationship between Tatsuya and Maya is still far. But Tatsuya did not show Miyuki any hints to that point.

    But Miyuki before and Maya still say the same thing.

    Blood relations, this is not just simply look at a similar genetic factor.......Tatsuya thought.

    [Originally Yotsuba's person, how many genetic research have been studied at the fourth lab. Although not as comprehensive, if we look at it at genetic factors, you and I are no different]

    Tatsuya deliberately stress on the commonality between him and Miyuki.

    But, looking at the heat of Miyuki's re cheeks, this move have not worked.

    [Well from now on, Onii-sama and I have a cousin relationship!]

    [At least from the view of outsiders, I say probably]

    [Then I am still Onii-sama’s fiancée right!]

    Miyuki said in a grateful voice.

    But her excitement, did not last long.

    Because she saw Tatsuya’s troubled expression.

    [Surely, you are disgusted………..]

    [What do you mean?]

    Tatsuya did not understand Miyuki’s sudden loss of reason, and voice that said the word, he did not understand.

    [To Onii-sama, I am your sister right?]

    [Ah, because that is fact]

    Overall, Tatsuya will never compromise on this point.

    [Sister wanting to be brother’s bride, of course it is not normal………..]

    [Miyuki, don’t tell me you]

    Tatsuya for a moment thought he heard wrong. But his facial features have a superhuman level of sensitivity.

    Miyuki have no doubt said [sister wanting to be her brother’s bride]. This can only be interpreted as Miyuki and Tatsuya.

    In other words, Miyuki…………

    [Yes, Right! I was not ordered by aunt! When I heard that I was Onii-sama’s fiancée, I felt really happy.]

    [This feeling has not changed. Even if I know Onii-sama and I are related by blood, I want to be loved! I want to be your bride! Because I have already given up, so I cannot give up even more!]

    Miyuki’s voice was very excited but not to the extent of difficult to hear. It can probably be too excited because of the reason, from time to time there are a few incomprehensible words.
    Just the phase [Because I have already given up, so I cannot give up even more], this means that [Before all this, I have given up, but when I know that I can get married to you I will not give up]. Miyuki from the start is trouble by this, for Tatsuya this is out of the blue. Indeed, Miyuki often expressed feelings beyond sibling love. But Tatsuya always felt that in the end it was merely admiration.

    But, isn’t this his own thoughts.

    Facing the crying Miyuki, Tatsuya cannot help but ask.

    [But Onii-sama is very normal…..and have normal moral values…..so you will not have feeling for his own sister. To this very abnormal sister, you must feel very sick right……]

    Miyuki finally begin to sob.

    It is not loud and tearful, but those who hear it will be anxious, suppressing the inner sadness, barely bottled-up crying.

    [Miyuki…..]

    Tatsuya gets closer to Miyuki, moving his right hands towards her shoulders.

    Miyuki’s hand, also reached towards his hand.

    Tatsuya originally though his hand would be brushed off. To the fickle brother that was unware of his sister’s cries of pain, this is the natural response.

    However, Miyuki shift Tatsuya’s right hand with both hands, holding it in his chest.

    [Hey…..]

    Tatsuya wanted to stop her, [hey, wait a minute] words failed to come out. Now his every senses, cannot do anything to abandon Miyuki, no, he cannot do it.

    [Onii-sama, I, I…….]

    Cling hard to Tatsuya’s hand, Miyuki shouted hoarsely.

    From the bottom of her heart, she shouted.

    [I, love……you. I love you. Onii-sama, I love you!]

    Tatsuya was used to hearing [I respect you]. [I love you] was the first time he heard her say it.

    Just a word of difference, the weight of those words is heavy. To Tatsuya this is the first time has learned such feelings.

    [It’s fine even if I am despised as an abnormal sister. Because of my sick attraction towards you. But…..but, I beg you, I beg you, Onii-sama……….]

    Miyuki lifts her tearful face.

    So sad, yet so beautiful face, never has Tatsuya seen so far.

    [No matter what………no matter what…….please let me stay by your side. Please do not abandon me. Please do not push me away]

    Even when Miyuki’s crying her face is not distorted, but tears are coming from both sides.

    This, Tatsuya knows today. Tatsuya feel, the sadness from someone crying.

    Tatsuya’s right hand still holding Miyuki, move his left hand around Miyuki’s back.

    [Onii..sa…ma]

    [I, will not abandon you.]

    [This…..this is……..Onii-sama, say it again………..say it again….]

    Holding Tatsuya’s hand, cradled in the arms of Tatsuya, face pressed against Tatsuya’s chest,

    Miyuki nervously asked hoping to hear it again, pleading nervously.

    [Miyuki, I will not abandon you]

    [Ah…]

    Miyuki issued an extremely emotional voice, her body was numb.

    Tatsuya offered his entire being to his sister, by giving her that answer.

    [Till death us two apart. I'll be by your side]

    [However, that's probably not what you would expect in that sense]

    [I am still like before, I still see you as my precious sister]

    [You are my cute sister. Such a cute sister, how can I be disgusted.]

    [I don’t think you are abnormal]

    [I will not reject you, not abandon you]

    [However, Miyuki……..that is because, I am your brother. And you, are my sister]

    [So……….sorry. At least for now, I can only think of you as my sister]

    Miyuki motionless listening to his voice, tightly gripped Tatsuya’s arm and sat up.

    [This is enough]

    Miyuki’s eyes kept the old tear, but did not make new tears.

    [For now, this is enough]

    Miyuki’s arm gently bypass Tatsuya’s neck, protecting her.

    [Now, I will still call you “Onii-sama”]

    Miyuki’s cheek rubbed against his face, whispering into his ears.

    [Onii-sama did say “For now”, which is enough for me]

    Miyuki’s strengthen her arms, hugging Tatsuya.

    [Onii-sama, will you allow me to look forward to it? Doesn’t need to be “now”, “one day” when you no longer see me as a sister but as “Miyuki”]

    Tatsuya whispered into Miyuki’s ears.

    [This may be a little strange, but I will try]

    Miyuki lets go of Tatsuya.

    [Well, really, Onii-sama]

    Miyuki exposes her smiling face.

    And Tatsuya replies back with a smile.

    Between brother and sister, things finally returns to normal.

    [Miyuki, it is late, we need to prepare for tomorrow, go to sleep]

    [Ah, you’re right, let me go get the bedding]

    Tatsuya grabs Miyuki’s hand.

    [Onii-sama?]

    [There is no need. Aunt helped us arrange this. Today let’s sleep together]

    [Eh!?]

    Miyuki’s voice trembled, even when she cried, her voice did not wavered as much.

    [Ah, um, Onii-sama, your intentions are, don’t tell me]

    [No, you are mistaken]

    Tatsuya face towards Miyuki, revealing a teasing smile.

    [We’re just sleeping together]

    [This…….this is…….ah]

    Miyuki appease her chest, her reaction, look regrettable, but also very understanding.


    It's only a rough translation, so there will be mistakes

    Thoughts and summary by a spanish transalator after reading it (He got the book way before the official release)

    Spoiler

    First of all, I would like to clarify that this time will not go up a detailed outline for the moment. I'm not sure what happened with Amazon, but I would wait until it's official day of departure of the book before talking about spoilers and some things.


    This time I would like to give an impression of what has been this volume, and perhaps well to draw some preliminary conclusions. For this volume I do not think I needed to extend in a summary like that again and I see more activity and more people who can read the original to fill with developments. For my part I would like to further my own translation and perhaps work more special as Leo, or Steeplechase. For the previous volume I omitted several things and some purposely left them half so that the interest is not lost for seeking more spoilers or clarify things.


    About how I got the book, I have to clarify that the issue is not mine but a friend who spent summers with his family in Kyoto. Luckily it is and those who purchase multiple copies, so he could send me one, though also I got an email saying the change of date of shipment. In other words, surely I get my own copy soon, or I leave my friend in exchange for that I have.
    Shipping takes days, but for different channels the book came to me express mail from California. I think that a person who brought as part of your baggage, so it did not go through customs controls and so I came in a different box to Amazon.


    For starters, this volume is shorter than the last, but not by much. In fact the pace of the story moves well to give more concise explanations of magic or some details, compared to the first volume at least.

    The previous volume exceeded some explanation, but it's making them very interesting. Satou introduces elements of Asian beliefs and legends often. I think if you already read volume 7 will realize what I mean.
    This time some are rather extensive, but not redundant.

    This volume is the Arch of Succession of Yotsuba, and as the name suggests, is largely about the clan. This time we have more details of the family, guardians modified system, and rather peculiar characters.
    When I mentioned that chat color pages (especially the tree / historical) are important, I meant precisely that.
    It may not mean much to the common reader, but if they have at least followed Tokyo Ravens, and have read some manga, the names shown in the tree have much significance in the world of the "magic" in our real world. When giving more details (if they do later) will better understand this.


    This volume makes clear one thing: Maya not planning things for Miyuki using Tatsuya, but the opposite. It is clear that everything that has happened is for the sake of Tatsuya, and the interests of Maya.

    This time striking two things magical aspect of science: ESCAPES project that seeks to use an advanced system large-scale magic for beneficial and dangerous bed of the coast in the Pacific Ocean substances. From this he had spoken something / a /. It is a system that incorporates four elements that have been developed since the incident in Okinawa: Cast Loop System, Magic Flight, Stellar Furnace (vol.12), and the last piece of the puzzle that would initiate the project itself, and which will be shown in the final part of the book.

    During the development of road and the main mansion we can see why Miyuki really afraid to leave Tatsuya as a simple servant. The attitude of many remains of contempt, but this will change later.

    Maya reveals the great "lie": they are not brothers. They are brothers of one birth "mother", but not genetically. Miyuki and it was created in the laboratory and designed by Miya. Perhaps many are confused with this, but it should be. Maya reveals more things later, and so said that it is better not to believe everything or to believe blindly. To clarify, some spoilers are incomplete by what I saw. This does not make false, they are partly true but not all, and this is important for the character of Maya.

    In short, simply do not believe anything until the end of the series.

    Particularly because Mitsugu, who will play an important role in this volume clarifies this. Maya is not the mother of Tatsuya. This then really say that the mother is not in body, but in spirit his mother. He was born as a worthy son of Maya, with the power to destroy the world that took his happiness with the same kind of magic she possesses.

    Again, for now Miya son Tatsuya is not of Maya for those who were confused. Why I not say for sure? Because in the end you never know. We can trust Mitsugu Kuroba, but not on how things are going to develop on.

    It also reveals a bit about the birth of Tatsuya. As a boy with the power to destroy the world, as the worst weapon created, the clan felt the need to kill him. This is part of the conversation with Hayama in the previous volume. It is thanks to Kuroba Tatsuya family was not killed, but trained and made ​​guardian.

    What is obviously important is the next leader Miyuki. This is a decision of Maya, and commitment to Tatsuya too.

    Not to dwell on the explanations, the last part of the book is the demonstration of the new magic Tatsuya: Baryon Lance.

    This has two objectives: to show that the decision to commit to Tatsuya with Miyuki is valid, to demonstrate its power to the rest of the clan, and prove that in fact the son of Maya to have the same magical quality to it. This also means free it from its role as guardian, and give freedom.

    The volume ends by explaining that the name Shiba Miyuki as next heir, and Shiba Tatsuya as her fiance are sent to the council of the 10 Clans Masters. However, instead of receiving a letter of congratulations and good wishes reach a formal complaint against the union, addressed to the headquarters of the assembly of teachers clans and written by Ichijou Gouki, Masaki father.


    The next issue is the "Arc of the Conference of Clans Masters", and this time Angelina Sirius (Lina) returns to join the cast




    NOTE: These are rough transalation of the preview by annons and may not be accurate so don't blame me if you find any errors when you transalate it.I will try to update this it if I find more.I forgot how we add the spoiler stuff any one know how ?


    Update 28 may:I am taking a break from mahouka too many unanswered question on my end and I am in need of a break will be back when vol 17 comes out so till then when I am in the mood I will cleanly put up the rought transalation left out till then CYA !

    ohh I forgot Suffer well ! reading all the comments below for the spoilers not posted here.

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    • 2098? I think its 2096 ?

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    • where can we find the full Volume 16 translations? can you guys tell me? thanks

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    • Thanks for the post!  I am addicted to this series and appreciate any and all updates (especialy since it appeares I will have a long wait before it is released in english).

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    • You can check out the preview in Japanese with this link to dengeki

      "So far it's about how she talks about the next Leader elecction, and how she will be running for. She basically was always taught to be the best, to aim for the leadership, etc, but everything changed in the turning point that was that summer's day.

      So far, there are 4 candidates: Shiba Miyuki, Kuroba Fumiya, Tsukuba Yuuka, Shibata Katsushige

      From those, Miyuki is the one who excels at magic and magic power. She herself knows it so if it's based on power and magic, she is clearly the next head. Even servants and other adults thing so.

      It's said that her magic power really is something above expectations, no kidding here. Also, the next leader, going by Yotsuba standards, must be a person of high power who will stand above everything."

      Preview is in three parts just as mention above....here are a few anon translations that have been made so far.

      Miyuki's Monologue

      Miyuki's part is she thinking, and then talking to herself about what is coming.

      The next election has some politics here, specially related to the 10MC. As it was said before, it's encouraged the marriage between magicians, so they leave offspring. It's not based in human laws, but not doing so will make them outcasts in the magic community. This is not only for Yotsubas, but for every family before the next 10MC meeting, where they likely will arrange marriage between them.

      It's because that that they do this election, when the candidates have reached a marriageable age. Of course Maya was an exception, but now other are expecting it not to be the case here.

      Miyuki basically confronts herself. Thinks about what can she do. Even rejecting the leadership will bring some consequences she doesn't know. The most obvious one is people are going to treat Tatsuya worse than ever. She can't do anything if she is not the leader. Bu that means she will have a fiancé that is not Tatsuya.

      Should her give up? It's not really a matter of giving up or not, in the first place there wasn't really an option for the two of them being more than siblings.

      But, why should she marry some unknown man, and have his children? Obviously, love is of not importance here.

      But she simply can't give up, she can't stand the idea of being the wife of other that is not Tatsuya. She doesn't want to bear a child that is not his.

      It's basically acknowledging her true feelings.

      Tatsuya's Magic(not Barryon Lance)

      Tatsuya is going to FLT 3rd division while Miyuki and Minami are taking care of the house.

      He has the plans of a new Magic, not a new CAD. This magic is a full scale magic with a large system.

      The project ESCAPES is about extracting harmful and useful substances from the Sea's bottom in the Pacific coast, this project uses mainly three things he has been working on for years: -Loop Cast System -Gravity Type Flight Device -Stellar Furnace

      Some other Anon Source

      Warning: This could be bullshit so don't come after me. But poeple from others communities are saying it is true. Honestly I don't know.

      Confirmed: vol.16 has Yotsuba family tree picture.

      Shibata Katsushige is 24 years old male. He graduated from 5th High School.

      Shibata Katsushige's two guardians seem to be siblings. Female one is 24 years old, and male one is 20 years old.

      Tsukuba Yuuka is 22 years old female. She graduated from 1st High school.

      And, vol.17 will be released in summer of 2015. The preview has Angie's picture.

      Could be BS but people say it is true:

      Link is japanese discussion form and down below are translations for few parts.

      http://hello.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/magazin/1420365595/

      1. Miyuki is a magician with modified genetic structure. (similar to Sakurai series)

      2. Miyuki is created for Tatsuya

      3. Mitsugu visited FLT because if Miyuki becomes the heir, Tatsuya's position will be elevated as a guard person of Yotsuba's leader (it did not use "guardian") So, Mitsugu has some problems.

      4. Tatsuya's group was attacked, and Tatsuya dueled against two guardians who protect Shibata Katsushige.

      5. Maya tells Tatsuya, Miyuki is not his sister.

      6. Miyuki gets chosen as a heir during the spring celebration

      7. Tatsuya shows off his new magic.

      8. The news about Yotsuba's new heir and her fiance is sent to other 10MC

      9. Ichijou family demur(objects) Miyuki's engagement, and the story ends.

      10. Tatsuya is fiance.

      11. Tatsuya is Maya's son

      12. Tatsuya's regrowth and decomposition are created by Maya. 

      another anon

      It is posted by hjHerstx at 2chan ( http://hello.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/magazin/1420365595/ )

      - Miyuki was born in order to stop Tatsuya when he gets out of control.

      - Ayako walked out of the Spring Celebration Meeting after she heard about Shiba siblings' engagement. There is additional info regarding Ayako, but I cannot make out what it means. (Ayako thinks, Maya is using Miyuki to provide freedom to Tatsuya; Post 579)

      - Tatsuya, Maya, and Hayama are only in the meeting, and Maya is telling the hidden intention. Maya lies to Tatsuya that Tatsuya is her son. She is lying in order to marry Tatsuya and Miyuki. From Maya's perspective, if something happens to Miyuki, Tatsuya will burn and destroy the world. Her vengeance towards the world will be fulfilled. If Tatsuya protects Miyuki from evils of the world, Maya can satisfy herself in another way. She said, either way, Tatsuya will satisfy her and her hatred against the world (her vengeance). This is why they are getting married, and she will not accept any objections. 

      -When Maya said, Tatsuya is her son, there is another reason. (Post 584; I cannot completely make what it means. I think, it means, his power is close to her, so she can say Tatsuya is her son.)

      So, Tatsuya is Maya's son. It would be great if we can get a little more accurate detail..and from what I understood Miyuki was created from the woman that was supposed to be Tatsuya's fiancee. Hence why Miyuki is like a Sakurai series, implying that Tatsuya is much older than he appears to be. Anons are speculating that he has reset his own age at least once.

      Anyway, it feels like, Maya just set her death flag in Mahouka.

      And, it seems like, she does not really care about 10MC or anything.

      It is true, Ichijou family raised the objection at the last page. And, it will be continue at 10MC meeting Arc.

      ==Mahouka ends with volume 20==

      gear up guys looks like Satou is going to rush thing...hope he gets it right and doesn't ruin it for us.

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    • Give me a minute, I am drinking in the fact that my favorite couple is almost getting together.
      There is a god after all and the air smells a bit better now that I know that Tatsuya and Miyuki may become husband and wife.

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    • okay now what this bullshit.......and i hate miyuki and tats pairing i mean its kinda like gross even if they are not sibling..they are stiil sibling to each other and the world

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    • 39.42.121.89 wrote:
      okay now what this bullshit.......and i hate miyuki and tats pairing i mean its kinda like gross even if they are not sibling..they are stiil sibling to each other and the world

      But if they can consumate without the risk of the child having abnormalities, it is legal

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    • Hey, for spoiler tags, use {{spoiler|your text here}}.

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    • @TheNoraShinki

      Is it alright if i post the entire Yotsuba Family Geneology on the Yotsuba page, or should i just post it here?

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    • Also, is it possible to create a Family Tree Template? The wiki is going to need one.

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    • spoilers confirmed to be real, amazone shiped the book out too soon lol

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    • I hope you're all following the animesuki thread, because this one has all the inaccurate spoilers we've worked out by now.

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    • Holy shit...lol

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    • Spoiler: Baryon Lance

      when tatsuya used it to shoot down a wild boar inside a cage during the demonstration, he attach a bayonet to his trident and shoot down the boar in a instant but his magic (according to the narrator) goes through 4 steps:


      1. he decompose the atoms of a portion of the bayonet into electrons, protons and neutrons


      2. using the fae theory he bends the law of physics by forcing the protons to combine with the electrons to form more neutrons, gathering them all together in the form of a small disk (fae theory prevents the particles from scattering)


      3. the disk of neutrons formed is the baryon and it is accelerated towards the target at an insane speed (10k km/s). this process also makes use of the fae theory.


      4. finally he regenerates the bayonet thus recovering all the dispersed particles and making his magic environment friendly

      At the beginning of the demonstration he even informed the public (made up entirely of yotsuba people) that his new lethal magic is supposed to target living things therefore a stench of blood might remain and those who don't want to see animals killed for no reason are invited to leave the place or watch from inside the room

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    • @lord odin, post it here if it has spoilers (ie not translated material) otherwise, feel free to post it on the yotsuba page.

      As for the family tree template, I'll look into it.

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    • Oh dear, apparently Miyuki and Tatsuya are both just one big Yotsuba experimental cocktail.

      Miya is their mother by virtue of having carried them both, but genetically she isn't, she's just a surrogate. Their DNA tests returned proving them to not be siblings which is why they had to be falsified. Maya believes that Tatsuya is her son at least in spirit because he inherited her magic and because his magic is the answer to her prayers. She has a twisted sense of pride in him because he's stronger than her. There has been no mention of who the gene donors were, for the record.

      I pity the fool who has to edit their family status sections in this wiki. Should probably just go with how they appear to be publicly.

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    • In the end I fear that this situation is going to break miyuki, and if it does that would explain a lot of comments the autor wrote in LN like when honami died "Tatsuya at that time did not know that it was actually possible to
      convince grief away, and that it would be the one time he would do so." or when he see minami for the first time and the author talks about the destruction that she will bring I always found the lines strange now there is a sorta explanation

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    • Some more detailed spoilers, credits to animesuki anon.

      The one who told Tatsuya about his identity is Kuroba Mitsugu.

      After a brief reading, it seems that the one who wants revenge on the world was...Miya! On the outside, she wanted to give birth to someone whose power could protect others (especially the children of Yotsuba), but in fact she also wanted vengeance on those that had destroyed her sister's life (and hers as well).


      The heads of the branch families had a very long meeting (Mitsugu says he doesn't remember very clearly). At the time, he had already been appointed as the next head of the Kuroba so he also participated in the meeting. They came to a decision (according to Mitsugu): "That kid must die! No, we must kill him immediately!". However, Tatsuya was saved by Mitsugu's uncle, Yotsuba Eisaku. 

      Tatsuya then received combat trainings and became Miyuki's guardian - end of Mitsugu's expostion.

      To the family meeting in present day, Maya announces Miyuki as the next Yotsuba's head and her fiancé is...Tatsuya.

      Maya then reveals to the siblings that Tatsuya is her son, not Miya's, and so that they are not real blood brother and sister. Then Maya orders Minami to take Miyuki back to her room while she and Tatsuya come to her chamber for private talk.

      She then admits that what she just said in front of Miyuki (about Tatsuya being born from Maya's egg and Miya being just the surrogate mother) was just...a lie (!)

      Tatsuya says that all the DNA tests indicate that they are blood siblings, and that is the undeniable proof. Maya just smiles and asks Tatsuya whether he did the test himself, or the results were from hospital.

      Then Maya reveals (again) that Miyuki is, in fact, a modified magician - in a similar way to the Sakurai series.  Why Miyuki was created? "Miyuki was tuned as a mean to restrain Tatsuya", said Maya. She also says that they won't be able to recreate another magician as perfect as Miyuki ever again. And this particular details about Miyuki being "created" is known to no on, even the branch heads.

      Maya says if strictly speaking about genetics, she and Tatsuya are aunt & nephew. But from the perspective of "spirit", then Tatsuya can be considered her "son".

      Summary of Maya's words:

      "When learned about the magic power in you (Decompostion & Regeneratrion), the uncles (referring to the branch heads), including Mitsugu and others in the same generation were all disappointed. But I was overjoyed, to the point of wanting to dance around. I even had to refrain myself from applauding out loud, you know Because your magic is what will fulfil my wish"

      "Your magic can turn the Earth into a dead star (LOL), it can destroy the world. Such magic can take revenge on this world, the cruel and unjust world that robbed me of the small happiness of a woman like me"

      "Saying you are my son is not that much of lie. Because the one who wanted you to be born was not my sister, it was MY wish.  Mitsugu and the others have misunderstood something. It is true that in term of blood and flesh, you were born from my sister. But I was the one who created your magic. That's why for a magician, you are indeed my son". 

      Tatsuya: "But you yourself cannot use Mental Interference magic, right?"

      *the guy was eating noodles when he was writing this LOL  *

      In actual facts, in the beginning, everyone - Mitsugu, Miya, Maya and the entire clan were eagerly praying and looking forward to the child Miya was carrying (Tatsuya). They hoped that "He will have the power to protect other children from the injustice of this world". 

      Later, the head of the Kuroba at the time, Yotsuba Eisake (why he was a Yotsuba but not Kuroba, I have no idea) had analysed and explained the danger of such power to everyone. The whole clan came to their "senses" which led to the meeting with the decision to kill Tatsuya. 

      When Miya was pregnant with Tatsuya, Maya dropped by several times and sometimes she also said: "I also want to bear a child like that" (oh dear )

      Miyuki was also born from Tatsuya's parents. Then she underwent some heavy modifications with the best and the greatest of Yotsuba's technology. Not only genetic techniques were deployed, Metal Interference (MI) Magic were also utilised. So it can be said that Miyuki's DNA is now not the same as before. Maya even guarantees that there won't be any genetic diseases (due to inbreeding) for Tatsuya and Miyuki's child (OH DEAR!!!!)

      Back to Tatsuya's question about how Maya "created" his magic while she doesn't have MI magic, Maya replies by saying that it was a miracle. She supposes that due to her intense feeling and wish, she was able to influnce how magic formed in Tatsuya. It also maybe due to she and her sister were identical twins 

      (I'm calling Satou is trolling us with this, or Maya just tries and finds whatever reason in the mean time LOL)

      Miya learned about how her magic was stolen (?), even her right as his mother was taken away. 

      Miya took away Maya's former self, Maya took Miya's son. From here the two sisters started to distance themselves from one to another, even to the day Miya passed away.  Despite all this, Miya did try to love Tatsuya, but in the end she couldn't. Maya now hopes that Tatsuya can understand his mother's feeling.

      The experiment on Tatsuya was, in fact, conducted to "help" him not to lose control over his emotion, and so that his magic wouldn't go berserk.  Miya was very reluctant to do the experiment, she only did it just so that Tatsuya wouldn't become the demon that would destroy the world.  The savage of the one strong feeling in Tatsuya was due to Miya's utmost effort, it even further exacerbated her health.

      Maya asks that Tatsuya keep all their conservation a secret from Miyuki, and that he keeps on protecting and taking care of her. Well, when Tatsuya returns, he tells Miyuki everything (haha).

      Miyuki is shocked when she learns that she is a modified magician, but overjoyed because now she can get married with Tatsuya.

      She says that Tatsuya would definitely be disgusted by a sister who loves her brother, but Tatsuya says he doesn't care. Miyuki officially confesses, the two embrace (seen in one of the BW illustrations).

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    • As one of MiyukiXTatsuya supporter, I am happy that Miyuki has virtually won. With Tatsuya and Miyuki now engage, the air feels fresher and the world looks brigther.

      Now, I should act like a mature person and offer other people that support other ships (now in life support), my sympathy

      But what's the fun in that...

      BEST GIRL WON!!!!!

      BEST GIRL WON!!!!!

      BEST GIRL WON!!!!!

      BEST GIRL WON!!!!!

      BEST GIRL WON!!!!!

      On a side note, I never thought that the author was a Star Wars fun.

      P.S.

      BEST GIRL WON!!!!!

      I am done gloating.

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    • Now i'm curios about the reaction of first high when they learn that miyuki and tatsuya are yotsuba and fiancee XDXD

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    • So for the moment Maya say that miyuki will be the next clan head, but since tatsuya will be the fiancee of miyuki is not incorrect to say that Maya choose tatsuya as next clan head by an inderect way For me in the end of the story tatsuya will be the yotsuba head, but i don't know if will be an tatsuyaXmiyuki ending or not

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    • Well i support TatsuyaXLina more than Miyuki. I also feel like right now Tatsuya has agreed only on the front because he has some plan in mind. It feels like right now he is just playing along Maya's plan.

      And only 4 vol. to go and here i thought we might get some badass fight scene but i guess it wont be possible now. I just wonder in 4 volume what all will be covered.

      Lina and Masaki comes to rescue :p

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    • Man now i actually want to see Mayumi and Honoka's reaction to this LOL and include Lina too. No wonder she will make her appearance pretty soon.

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    • 103.235.122.73 wrote:
      Well i support TatsuyaXLina more than Miyuki. I also feel like right now Tatsuya has agreed only on the front because he has some plan in mind. It feels like right now he is just playing along Maya's plan.

      And only 4 vol. to go and here i thought we might get some badass fight scene but i guess it wont be possible now. I just wonder in 4 volume what all will be covered.

      Lina and Masaki comes to rescue :p


      You guys are in denial. Miyuki won, end of story. If Miyuki dies, Tatsuya becomes a demon, then the world goes bye-bye.

      Plus, Tatsuya will never have emotions towards any other girls in the series. You guys can argue that Tatsuya's feelings for Miyuki are only familial, but at least he is willing try to love her in a deeper manner.

      When Honoka confess, he rejected her, no buts or if.

      When Miyuki confess, Tatsuya was willing to try and fall in love with her to a much more deeper level.

      Tatsuya will not go that far for any females aside from Miyuki.

      Miyuki win, end of story, period. Let us all wait for the wedding.

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    • Until her guilt kills her because she finaly understood that he never had a choice and she is being extremely selfish only thinking about herself never about him because he never had a choice

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    • 194.210.175.144 wrote:
      Until her guilt kills her because she finaly understood that he never had a choice and she is being extremely selfish only thinking about herself never about him because he never had a choice


      Love, true love, is not about sacrifises, true love is about being selfish. If you love someone so much, you don't let them go, you hold onto them for as long as you can while doing everything in your power to have them love you or have them consider that you would be a fantastic lover fpr them.

      If you love someone, as in love them so much till death do us part, you don't give up on them until you can move on or truly over them.

      Miyuki will not consider any sort of guilt through this arrangement. The only thing she will focus on is having Tatsuya fall for her completely, before moving their relationship to the bed, with curtains close, and clothing on the floor.

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    • File:P8MhFg97fDY.jpg
      Courtesy of Animesuki

      Perhaps the best scene of the preview featuring best girl, translated by me. Refer to image 7 from OP
      () denotes Miyuki's lines, <> denotes mirror Miyuki's and [] denotes my notes or just the implications if I can't translate directly
      pg 15, last line:
      She sat in front of the bureau mirror, and had a heart-to-heart talk with herself on the other side.
      pg 16:
      (...Yes, this is unavoidable. I cannot do anything about it)
      The Miyuki in the mirror gave a heartfelt reply:
      <Is it really unavoidable? Do you really agree to this?>
      The voice from the mirror was slightly younger. [as in, the Miyuki on the other side is younger]
      (Yes... It is an unavoidable fact that Onii-sama and I are siblings. (I) must agree to it, and so (I) shall.)
      <Lies! I will never agree to something like this!>
      (Even if I don't consent to this at all, I have no choice but to give in, "Miyuki". Because Onii-sama and I are true siblings.)
      <Must you concede because you are true siblings!?>
      (It is not a question of whether I concede or do not concede. Siblings cannot be married. I already knew that to begin with, and I never hoped to love Onii-sama as a woman. If I never hoped for it, is it abnormal to give up on it?)
      <Lies! Why then, is "Miyuki" so against this unknown fiancé who may or may not even exist!>
      pg17:
      (Isn't it a mother's duty to be wed and to breed children? Onii-sama would [only lose his job and I can't have that])
      <You can just leave the children to the babysitters. After all, the head of the Yotsuba will have their hands full with work. There's no way they can afford to spend all their time with their children.>
      Miyuki stared hard at her own face, reflected in the mirror. She didn't realize that her arguments were all so petty and easily countered.
      The young girl in the mirror began to speak. Words that provoked Miyuki who couldn't face her true self.
      <Even if you married another man, Onii-sama has countless other uses. You don't even need to love the man you married to fulfill the duty of a Magician. As long as you birth a child, no one's going to complain. "Miyuki", what you really object to is not the marriage itself.>
      (Stop)
      Miyuki wanted to cover her ears.
      <"Miyuki", your true self desires...>
      (Stop!)
      Miyuki wanted to turn her back to herself in the mirror.
      pg18:
      <What you really objected to was:>
      (Stop...!)
      Even so, no matter how hard Miyuki shook her head, she could not defeat the mirror.
      <To be anyone's wife except Onii-sama's.>
      She could no longer raise her voice against her own heart.
      <To make love to anyone except Onii-sama.>
      In the mirror was a pair of frightened eyes. She who never wanted to hold those thoughts. She who held back her own heart.
      <To be unable to become Onii-sama's bride. To be unable to make love to Onii-sama. To be unable to love Onii-sama as a woman!>
      "Ah...!"
      Grief leaking from trembled lips, her body crumbled to the floor from her seat.
      With the mirror out of view, she was freed from her curse.
      "But, it can't be helped."
      Thoughts leaked from her body in the form of her voice. Her conflicting emotions were now one.
      "Because I am Onii-sama's sister. Because I am Onii-sama's true sibling."
      The feelings that she could no longer hold in her heart spilled out one-by-one.
      "It is unforgivable to love a brother as a woman. The world will not forgive it. Even Onii-sama will think it is abnormal.
      pg19:
      He would surely find such a concept disgusting." Alone in the apartment, Miyuki laid bare her thoughts in confession. Because there was no one to hear her, she could be honest to herself.
      "I don't care what the world thinks. If people point fingers behind my back, I can take the ostracism. But, if Onii-sama were to label me as someone disgusting... I wouldn't be able to stand it...!"
      She never believed that her feelings were sinful.
      If she could be forgiven by a single person, it would not even be God.
      "That's why it cannot be helped."
      Miyuki stopped confessing. Her flowing feelings turned from words to tears, and spilled from her eyes that carried them.

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    • And some day after: miyuki is not your sister( miyuki mind become like a paradise full of flower), ok stop the joke here but this will be funny to see the extreme selfish miyuki But in the spoiler image there is one with Lina comeback, this could be more interresting something like the 10 MC wants LinaXTatsuya and MiyukiXMasaki, and forcefull tatsuya to go overseas with Lina, or pheraphs Lina return is linked with the offer that tatsuya give to Lina in the 11 volume to shut down with the USNA and became a japanese citezen?

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    • we don't care what they (10MC) want.Miyuki after these announcments she won't let anyone to become an obscance for her to be with tatsuya.Maya doesn't care about 10 MC too.

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    • People are jumping the gun, Miyuki hasn't outright won yet. It's confirmed that Tatsuya still only see's her as his imouto.

      This line pretty much proves it: 'miyuki says:'>Onii-sama, can I get my hopes up.. that, even if not now, one day, you might see me as "miyuki" instead of as your imouto?'and tats replies'>this way of saying it might sound strange, but I'll do my best So just settle down, everybody can relax that their ships haven't been sunk quite yet. Plus there's four volumes left, so a lot can happen.  

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    • Mahesvara wrote:
      People are jumping the gun, Miyuki hasn't outright won yet. It's confirmed that Tatsuya still only see's her as his imouto.

      This line pretty much proves it: 'miyuki says:'>Onii-sama, can I get my hopes up.. that, even if not now, one day, you might see me as "miyuki" instead of as your imouto?'and tats replies'>this way of saying it might sound strange, but I'll do my best So just settle down, everybody can relax that their ships haven't been sunk quite yet. Plus there's four volumes left, so a lot can happen.  

      Yep you are right, i'm one that is against the tatsuyaXmiyuki, probably this engament is some maya plan, but for me in the end tatsuya will become the yotsuba head and i'll like to see an tatsuyaXlina ending and miyukiX???, in the ln the only girl that tatsuya praise a little after her sister was lina

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    • Here are a few things to think about -

      Maya claimed Tatsuya as her son.  Maya wants revenge on the world.  Maya wants Tatsuya and Miyuki to marry.  Miyuki was created to control Tatsuya.  Tatsuya only has emotions for Miyuki.

      So if Tatsuya marries or is just engaged to Miyuki and something happens to her (maybe something arranged by Maya) what will Tatsuya do?  Would his only emotion left to him go out of control (how many times has he gone ballistic in the series when Miyuki was targeted?)  If Miyuki is out of the picture so is his limiter.  Would this be Maya's chance to destroy the world by way of her son doing it?  Could this be an elaborate plot by Maya or maybe I just have a warped imagination.

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    • 71.1.123.162 wrote:
      Here are a few things to think about -

      Maya claimed Tatsuya as her son.  Maya wants revenge on the world.  Maya wants Tatsuya and Miyuki to marry.  Miyuki was created to control Tatsuya.  Tatsuya only has emotions for Miyuki.

      So if Tatsuya marries or is just engaged to Miyuki and something happens to her (maybe something arranged by Maya) what will Tatsuya do?  Would his only emotion left to him go out of control (how many times has he gone ballistic in the series when Miyuki was targeted?)  If Miyuki is out of the picture so is his limiter.  Would this be Maya's chance to destroy the world by way of her son doing it?  Could this be an elaborate plot by Maya or maybe I just have a warped imagination.

      Honestly, that is one hell of terrifying theory. If Tatsuya and Miyuki marry, and something happens to Miyuki (let's not say death, but like a coma and can't wake up [as this is hypothetical, tatsuya's magic can't fix it]) then Tatsuya would most likely become the acting head, and based off of what Maya told Tatsuya in those spoilers she might be trying to use this whole thing to make Tatsuya the next head.


      With regards to a child between the Shiba's, as I understood it, they have both been messed with enough genetically that you can view it as two predetermined fiances were raised together under the pretext of siblings. 


      I wonder how the Yotsuba are going to explain their (Tatsuya and Miyuki) relationship. I mean after all they have been telling everyone ever that they are blood siblings....    

      [Maybe they'll go with it they were suppossed to be married, but Tatsuya's family died very young so the Yotsuba took him and raised him as Miyuki's brother. This all happened before Tatsuya could even get to know his parents face, hence him believing they are siblings]

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    • 37.116.237.56 wrote: Yep you are right, i'm one that is against the tatsuyaXmiyuki, probably this engament is some maya plan, but for me in the end tatsuya will become the yotsuba head and i'll like to see an tatsuyaXlina ending and miyukiX???, in the ln the only girl that tatsuya praise a little after her sister was lina

      I wouldn't say I'm against it, but I prefer other ships. I openly admit that I'm a Mayumifag and Linafag. lol

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    • Mahesvara wrote:
      People are jumping the gun, Miyuki hasn't outright won yet. It's confirmed that Tatsuya still only see's her as his imouto.

      This line pretty much proves it: 'miyuki says:'>Onii-sama, can I get my hopes up.. that, even if not now, one day, you might see me as "miyuki" instead of as your imouto?'and tats replies'>this way of saying it might sound strange, but I'll do my best So just settle down, everybody can relax that their ships haven't been sunk quite yet. Plus there's four volumes left, so a lot can happen.  

      is that quote in volume 16?

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    • 37.116.237.56 wrote:
      And some day after: miyuki is not your sister( miyuki mind become like a paradise full of flower), ok stop the joke here but this will be funny to see the extreme selfish miyuki

      But in the spoiler image there is one with Lina comeback, this could be more interresting something like the 10 MC wants LinaXTatsuya and MiyukiXMasaki, and forcefull tatsuya to go overseas with Lina, or pheraphs Lina return is linked with the offer that tatsuya give to Lina in the 11 volume to shut down with the USNA and became a japanese citezen?

      If you're going to use the 'grew up as siblings' card, forget it!
      They never did. Miyuki sees him as more as another man long ago. Never a brother.
      Tatsuya, believed they are siblings, actually saw her just as a beautiful girl of same age in a same house before.


      And since Tatsuya has nothing to compare his own feelings of love to, I believe it is much rational to say now that that love should be called more as 'only love exist in him which is designed as only-for-Miyuki'. There is no siblings-love (which he thought it is).
      There is just love. Love alone. Which he has not for others.
      Now that Tatsuya knows they are not siblings, I don't think it changes much except that if they are going to be married, it is okay to public, to Miyuki's public image which is what he is more concerned, ergo his 'ill try hard' is very suitable! Since there is only one so-called love in him and it has access only to Miyuki, he needs only change his perspectives and yes, 'try hard' for it. Lol

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    • So I have been browsing this website for a short time now and I have to ask a question regarding the information and how it is confirmed; do you simply check the sources to find if they are valid or not, or do you cross-reference them with other sources to see if they correspond to what the other is stating? I am only stating this since the Yotsuba Inheritance Arc seems like a huge focal point and everyone is seeming to gravitate towards it at the moment; I am incredibly interested in this subject as well since I like the dynamic between the Miyuki and Tatsuya and seeing them possibly come together is making me want to get all the information I can. 

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    • Fujin of shadows wrote:If you're going to use the 'grew up as siblings' card, forget it!


      They never did. Miyuki sees him as more as another man long ago. Never a brother.
      Tatsuya, believed they are siblings, actually saw her just as a beautiful girl of same age in a same house before.


      And since Tatsuya has nothing to compare his own feelings of love to, I believe it is much rational to say now that that love should be called more as 'only love exist in him which is designed as only-for-Miyuki'. There is no siblings-love (which he thought it is).
      There is just love. Love alone. Which he has not for others.
      Now that Tatsuya knows they are not siblings, I don't think it changes much except that if they are going to be married, it is okay to public, to Miyuki's public image which is what he is more concerned, ergo his 'ill try hard' is very suitable! Since there is only one so-called love in him and it has access only to Miyuki, he needs only change his perspectives and yes, 'try hard' for it. Lol

      You say there is no sibling love, yet Miya purposely made him feel only sibling love for Miyuki,  and this has yet to be established differently. So he still see's her only as his atm, whether you like it or not. Miyukifags, like you, are overreacting to this. Plus all of this is way to convienent and with how early its been established, this course that Maya has planned out for them is more than likely to get screwed up at some point. 

      Sure you can be happy, but calling it Miyuki's win already when there are 4 volumes left is counting your chickens before they ar hatched.

      On another note: we also don't know if Maya is telling the full truth and anons have also said Tatsuya doesn't really believe her either.

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    • 95.92.250.13 wrote:

      is that quote in volume 16?

      Yes it is, posted from an anon on 4chan.

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    • For me tatsuya caught that there is something fishy about the Maya declaration, and probably late or not miyuki will arrive at the same conclusion; for me the engagment between the "siblings" is used for gives at tatsuya more power and fredoom in the family, i think that Maya wants tatsuya sa the head of the yotsuba but the other clan head are just scared about him

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    • Whattup amigos? Lina's return, the marraige, oh how I wish I could read it in its entirety. CURSE YOU YAN PRESS. Anyways, so good, my geuss is the volume 16-17 are a setup and 18-20 are the big finale since volume 20 is last? Also, there any way to see the rest of the illustrations?

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    • Hey, Mahesvara, Fujin of Shadows, Nani895 and Oogura Ryuuga, do you guys mind if I compile your spoiler posts into the op with spoiler tags, just to make the whole thing somewhat less messy?

      Also guys, could you please try to avoid excessive quoting and spaces...

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    • TheNoraShinki wrote:
      Hey, Mahesvara, Fujin of Shadows, Nani895 and Oogura Ryuuga, do you guys mind if I compile your spoiler posts into the op with spoiler tags, just to make the whole thing somewhat less messy?

      Also guys, could you please try to avoid excessive quoting and spaces...


      Do what you think is best. I don't mind

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    • Could someone post a website for spoilers(english) or translations for volume 16(in a week or so) when they come out or if they find a website or translator that does. If for vol.17(in MONTHS!!) that would be great

      Thx.

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    • TheNoraShinki wrote:
      Hey, Mahesvara, Fujin of Shadows, Nani895 and Oogura Ryuuga, do you guys mind if I compile your spoiler posts into the op with spoiler tags, just to make the whole thing somewhat less messy?

      Also guys, could you please try to avoid excessive quoting and spaces...

      I dont mind dude... i am just posting those spoilers from other website here so somemore people can follow...you can organise them as you like...gl.

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    • Our Miracle wrote:
      Could someone post a website for spoilers(english) or translations for volume 16(in a week or so) when they come out or if they find a website or translator that does. If for vol.17(in MONTHS!!) that would be great

      Thx.

      i am trying to find websites for translations as well but i can't ind them...i taught baka will continue translations for other languages which can be translated into english using machine. but it looks like they totally abandoned the project. All other language translations are stalled. No update on the website for other languages as well since the project was abandoned.

      Guys please let us know if anyone found any translators working on Mahouka

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    • Tatsuyama wrote:
      Whattup amigos? Lina's return, the marraige, oh how I wish I could read it in its entirety. CURSE YOU YAN PRESS. Anyways, so good, my geuss is the volume 16-17 are a setup and 18-20 are the big finale since volume 20 is last? Also, there any way to see the rest of the illustrations?

      Volume 20 may not be the last....It was mentioned by early spoiled that afterword mentione volume 20 will be the end but now new spoilers say it was not mentioned in afterword but some other magazine or something. then again in the afterword author said if you view mahouka as a two part series, volume 16 is the end of first part and now a new chapter in the series begins. So for now volume 20 being the end is still in speculation.

      Apart from the links i shared above there were no other new illustrations.

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    • Mahesvara wrote:
      Fujin of shadows wrote:If you're going to use the 'grew up as siblings' card, forget it!


      They never did. Miyuki sees him as more as another man long ago. Never a brother.
      Tatsuya, believed they are siblings, actually saw her just as a beautiful girl of same age in a same house before.


      And since Tatsuya has nothing to compare his own feelings of love to, I believe it is much rational to say now that that love should be called more as 'only love exist in him which is designed as only-for-Miyuki'. There is no siblings-love (which he thought it is).
      There is just love. Love alone. Which he has not for others.
      Now that Tatsuya knows they are not siblings, I don't think it changes much except that if they are going to be married, it is okay to public, to Miyuki's public image which is what he is more concerned, ergo his 'ill try hard' is very suitable! Since there is only one so-called love in him and it has access only to Miyuki, he needs only change his perspectives and yes, 'try hard' for it. Lol

      You say there is no sibling love, yet Miya purposely made him feel only sibling love for Miyuki,  and this has yet to be established differently. So he still see's her only as his atm, whether you like it or not. Miyukifags, like you, are overreacting to this. Plus all of this is way to convienent and with how early its been established, this course that Maya has planned out for them is more than likely to get screwed up at some point. 

      Sure you can be happy, but calling it Miyuki's win already when there are 4 volumes left is counting your chickens before they ar hatched.

      On another note: we also don't know if Maya is telling the full truth and anons have also said Tatsuya doesn't really believe her either.

      No, it may not be sibling love. Miya didn't make him love her like a sibling. Miya left his emotions tied up to a single person(Miyuki). It was never explicity sibling love. It formed as sibling love because he was told Miyuki is his sister. From the childhood if they said Miyuki is your fiance he might have developed romantic love for her. So remember this befor you dispute. There is a chance his love can be transformed from familial to romantic based on the circumstances and his will...still it doesnot mean it will for sure. From now everything is in contempltion for him. If he decides he is going to love her romantically as per Miyuki's wish there is nothing stopping him. He will just ignore all others arguments incase of Miyuki. 

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    • nah I think MKnR would end with 20 Vols, but a second season with university would come.

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    • And if Tatsuya will love miyuki or not or Tatsuya would go against his Family is not our decision!!

      Nah and I think Tatsuya is the one of the two Siblings who is most Yotsuba. (Yotsuba genes,Yotsubablood)  

      Maya and Miya smiles with so much proud and love to the newborn Tatsuya :)

      It is a rumor that the MCAoperation was for only one part and that is not for Tatsuya use magic but for sealed (don`t how much, but i am pretty sure very much) of his Power. 

      And what Maya did from the Start to yet was all for her AND Tatsuya!!! not for Miyuki. She even told the 7 Branchheads that Tatsuya is her own Son. And she finks so in Spirit too. She would have dance when there was no other as she heard of his Powers.

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    • And if Tatsuya will love miyuki or not or Tatsuya would go against his Family is not our decision!! Its the Authors and Publisher *  (sorry forget this Part)

      And I hope Tatusya and Maya were alive at the end, when not I think it would come just like code geass ( that was pretty epic how much the fans protest and even threats them because Lulu dead or not , I think that was the most fucking shit end, everyone loves Lelouch and so the Author killed him ( fucking asshole) yeah I was against lulus death too and I think he is ALIVE  :D:D:D

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    • ^ He didn't die watch the Japanese directors cut you'll understand. You are right about it being the authors decision as well.

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    • It will be really cool if Maya does some good stuff for tatsuya, maybe in the end she is not evil like is appear for now probably but for al of this stuff there are all the third high school year

      I'll want a sequel about all the people after the graduation i'm curios about the choiche that they do for their future

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    • Is mayumi mentioned anywhere in the volume 16

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    • even if Tatsuya and Miyuki do end up together

      there will be at lest a few things that will need to get exposed [i hope in a fallow up series when in National Magic University]

      Tatsuya as Silver (the primary half of Taurus Silver)

      Tatsuya as Strategic-Class Magician (Ooguro Ryuuya) [the cause of Scorched Halloween]

      Tatsuya creating his one goal of 'Gravity Control-Type Magic thermonuclear fusion reactor'

      exactly how many of the Cardinal Codes Tatsuya knows [i get the feeling he knows most if not all them,this is because several times in the LN's he talks about them and this line in the Yokohama Disturbance Arc "A diploma from a magic high school was a prerequisite for attending the National Magic University, but there were always exceptions; especially, talented individuals who might have discovered a "Cardinal Code" would immediately qualify for the examination process even without a magic high school diploma."]

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    • yo quiero saber la sorpresa de Sus Amigos Cuando Se enteran Que Son yotsuba

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    • does anyone have the link to the summary in english? there's alot of small parts of summaries here and there but is there a consolidated one?

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    • Courtesy of yellowsnake

      Midnight is coming near, but Miyuki have not come back yet.

      But on the contrary, the bed room have already been prepared.

      The room is a single chamber room, but there is only one set of bedding. However, there are two pillows.

      [Onii-Sama, I'm sorry that I've come back late]

      And at the most unfortunate time, Miyuki came back.

      [This is-------!]

      The door was wide open, by looking at the state of the room, just entering the room, they will naturally greet eyes.

      [Miyuki, this is not my--]

      "Doing" was on the tip of his tongue, but Tatsuya failed to say it.

      [Onii-sama, this is.......]

      [No, this is not my doing. After I came back from my shower it is already in this state]

      [I see........]

      [umm, O-Onii-sama]

      [What is it?]

      [Nothing, umm, can I still call you Onii-sama? Or do you want me to call you Tat, T.......]

      [Just call me like you always called me]

      [Then, Onii-Sama........ our talk with auntie, is it over?]

      [That, of course........]

      It is now here, it was only a matter of course, Tatsuya originally wanted to answer, but he immediate noticed Miyuki's question had another meaning.

      [Ah, it's over. That matter with Aunt tell me the reason, I understand]

      [Yeah, so........]

      [Say Onii-sama, about us not being brother and sisters]

      [It's false]

      Tatsuya's answer is extremely simple.

      [Why would Aunt tell such a lie?]

      [The explanation will be hard to understand, but it seems to contribute to that reason that you and I are getting married]

      Maya's explanation is indeed hard to understand, but Tatsuya understood many things. But whether or not this is good for Miyuki, Tatsuya cannot determine.

      [But we are obviously brother and sister.....isn't it?]

      [Registration and DNA identification seems similar]

      [But with Yotsuba's power, they can do anything.......]

      [Children born like that do not have to worry about the aspect of genetic factors]

      [Why do you say that?]

      Looking into her eyes, Tatsuya decided to tell her.

      [Your body does not have anything that would cause abnormal factor genes]

      [Because you have a modifier]

      [I am, modifier.........]

      [You are made out of father and mother's fertilized egg, based on collection of Yotsuba's science and magic, creating the "perfect modifier' overcoming shortcomings of the body, the highest masterpiece that the Yotsuba has ever created]

      [Well....I will never leave Onii-sama, I will not fall into the netherworld, right?]

      She feared, this body will not have a stable life. If one day she suddenly stops breathing, then she cannot be with Tatsuya.

      [From aunt's tone, it seem that your resistance for continuous magic use is higher than mines]

      [Can I........still live with Onii-sama?]

      [Based on Aunt's words, you will live longer than me]

      And so, heading that she and Onii-sama will live an equal amount of time, the fact that she was the regulator became irrelevant.

      [Onii-sama is still my sibling......but I inherited the factor, so Onii-sama and I are completely different things]

      Tatsuya's heart is like a thousand horses galloping through mud.

      Indeed Maya said, Miyuki's genetic factor is adjusted, transformation is more appropriate, on genetic distance, the aunt and nephew relationship between Tatsuya and Maya is still far. But Tatsuya did not show Miyuki any hints to that point.

      But Miyuki before and Maya still say the same thing.

      Blood relations, this is not just simply look at a similar genetic factor.......Tatsuya thought.

      [Originally Yotsuba's person, how many genetic research have been studied at the fourth lab. Although not as comprehensive, if we look at it at genetic factors, you and I are no different]

      Tatsuya deliberately stress on the commonality between him and Miyuki.

      But, looking at the heat of Miyuki's re cheeks, this move have not worked.

      [Well from now on, Onii-sama and I have a cousin relationship!]

      [At least from the view of outsiders, I say probably]

      [Then I am still Onii-sama’s fiancée right!]

      Miyuki said in a grateful voice.

      But her excitement, did not last long.

      Because she saw Tatsuya’s troubled expression.

      [Surely, you are disgusted………..]

      [What do you mean?]

      Tatsuya did not understand Miyuki’s sudden loss of reason, and voice that said the word, he did not understand.

      [To Onii-sama, I am your sister right?]

      [Ah, because that is fact]

      Overall, Tatsuya will never compromise on this point.

      [Sister wanting to be brother’s bride, of course it is not normal………..]

      [Miyuki, don’t tell me you]

      Tatsuya for a moment thought he heard wrong. But his facial features have a superhuman level of sensitivity.

      Miyuki have no doubt said [sister wanting to be her brother’s bride]. This can only be interpreted as Miyuki and Tatsuya.

      In other words, Miyuki…………

      [Yes, Right! I was not ordered by aunt! When I heard that I was Onii-sama’s fiancée, I felt really happy.]

      [This feeling has not changed. Even if I know Onii-sama and I are related by blood, I want to be loved! I want to be your bride! Because I have already given up, so I cannot give up even more!]

      Miyuki’s voice was very excited but not to the extent of difficult to hear. It can probably be too excited because of the reason, from time to time there are a few incomprehensible words.
      Just the phase [Because I have already given up, so I cannot give up even more], this means that [Before all this, I have given up, but when I know that I can get married to you I will not give up]. Miyuki from the start is trouble by this, for Tatsuya this is out of the blue. Indeed, Miyuki often expressed feelings beyond sibling love. But Tatsuya always felt that in the end it was merely admiration.

      But, isn’t this his own thoughts.

      Facing the crying Miyuki, Tatsuya cannot help but ask.

      [But Onii-sama is very normal…..and have normal moral values…..so you will not have feeling for his own sister. To this very abnormal sister, you must feel very sick right……]

      Miyuki finally begin to sob.

      It is not loud and tearful, but those who hear it will be anxious, suppressing the inner sadness, barely bottled-up crying.

      [Miyuki…..]

      Tatsuya gets closer to Miyuki, moving his right hands towards her shoulders.

      Miyuki’s hand, also reached towards his hand.

      Tatsuya originally though his hand would be brushed off. To the fickle brother that was unware of his sister’s cries of pain, this is the natural response.

      However, Miyuki shift Tatsuya’s right hand with both hands, holding it in his chest.

      [Hey…..]

      Tatsuya wanted to stop her, [hey, wait a minute] words failed to come out. Now his every senses, cannot do anything to abandon Miyuki, no, he cannot do it.

      [Onii-sama, I, I…….]

      Cling hard to Tatsuya’s hand, Miyuki shouted hoarsely.

      From the bottom of her heart, she shouted.

      [I, love……you. I love you. Onii-sama, I love you!]

      Tatsuya was used to hearing [I respect you]. [I love you] was the first time he heard her say it.

      Just a word of difference, the weight of those words is heavy. To Tatsuya this is the first time has learned such feelings.

      [It’s fine even if I am despised as an abnormal sister. Because of my sick attraction towards you. But…..but, I beg you, I beg you, Onii-sama……….]

      Miyuki lifts her tearful face.

      So sad, yet so beautiful face, never has Tatsuya seen so far.

      [No matter what………no matter what…….please let me stay by your side. Please do not abandon me. Please do not push me away]

      Even when Miyuki’s crying her face is not distorted, but tears are coming from both sides.

      This, Tatsuya knows today. Tatsuya feel, the sadness from someone crying.

      Tatsuya’s right hand still holding Miyuki, move his left hand around Miyuki’s back.

      [Onii..sa…ma]

      [I, will not abandon you.]

      [This…..this is……..Onii-sama, say it again………..say it again….]

      Holding Tatsuya’s hand, cradled in the arms of Tatsuya, face pressed against Tatsuya’s chest,

      Miyuki nervously asked hoping to hear it again, pleading nervously.

      [Miyuki, I will not abandon you]

      [Ah…]

      Miyuki issued an extremely emotional voice, her body was numb.

      Tatsuya offered his entire being to his sister, by giving her that answer.

      [Till death us two apart. I'll be by your side]

      [However, that's probably not what you would expect in that sense]

      [I am still like before, I still see you as my precious sister]

      [You are my cute sister. Such a cute sister, how can I be disgusted.]

      [I don’t think you are abnormal]

      [I will not reject you, not abandon you]

      [However, Miyuki……..that is because, I am your brother. And you, are my sister]

      [So……….sorry. At least for now, I can only think of you as my sister]

      Miyuki motionless listening to his voice, tightly gripped Tatsuya’s arm and sat up.

      [This is enough]

      Miyuki’s eyes kept the old tear, but did not make new tears.

      [For now, this is enough]

      Miyuki’s arm gently bypass Tatsuya’s neck, protecting her.

      [Now, I will still call you “Onii-sama”]

      Miyuki’s cheek rubbed against his face, whispering into his ears.

      [Onii-sama did say “For now”, which is enough for me]

      Miyuki’s strengthen her arms, hugging Tatsuya.

      [Onii-sama, will you allow me to look forward to it? Doesn’t need to be “now”, “one day” when you no longer see me as a sister but as “Miyuki”]

      Tatsuya whispered into Miyuki’s ears.

      [This may be a little strange, but I will try]

      Miyuki lets go of Tatsuya.

      [Well, really, Onii-sama]

      Miyuki exposes her smiling face.

      And Tatsuya replies back with a smile.

      Between brother and sister, things finally returns to normal.

      [Miyuki, it is late, we need to prepare for tomorrow, go to sleep]

      [Ah, you’re right, let me go get the bedding]

      Tatsuya grabs Miyuki’s hand.

      [Onii-sama?]

      [There is no need. Aunt helped us arrange this. Today let’s sleep together]

      [Eh!?]

      Miyuki’s voice trembled, even when she cried, her voice did not wavered as much.

      [Ah, um, Onii-sama, your intentions are, don’t tell me]

      [No, you are mistaken]

      Tatsuya face towards Miyuki, revealing a teasing smile.

      [We’re just sleeping together]

      [This…….this is…….ah]

      Miyuki appease her chest, her reaction, look regrettable, but also very understanding.


      It's only a rough translation, so there will be mistakes

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    • Thank you<3 you made my day n.n

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    • Boy people made a really early party finally I am starting to understand the 2 most important phrases in volume 8 -  "--Tatsuya at that time did not know that it was actually possible to
      convince grief away, and that it would be the one time he would do so." when honami died and "---At that moment, he had no way of predicting the havoc and destruction to come." when he met Minami

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    • Credit: runningnooblet on reddit
      Pg 278:
      Tatsuya faced the audience and began to explain in a loud voice:

      "The new magic 'Baryon Lance' is a sure-kill magic against organic beings. For this reason, the demonstration will be performed on flesh and blood. Those who do not like unnecessary killing, it is recommended that you temporarily move to another room."

      There were some faces that contorted after the warning, but not a single person moved. This meant that everyone around was truly affiliated with the Yotsuba.

      While wondering just what kind of exhibition this was going to be, Tatsuya pulled out a Silver Horn Custom 'Trident' from the case, customized solely for this magic.

      Taking the Trident pistol that he would usually dual wield with, he readied only a single pistol, with an extra bayonet attached to the tip. The bayonet was quite long, creating a rather unbalanced trademark look to it.

      pg 279:

      Tatsuya pointed the bayonet at the caged pig. Casually, he pulled the trigger, simultaneously activating the magic processes.

      [Material: Baryon Disassembly]

      The bayonet blade atom's nuclei split from it. In order to do this, the atoms were disassembled into the Proton, Neutron and Electron, then had the Baryons split from it.

      [Execute FAE Process: Gather Particles]

      Just as FAE theory dictated, the particles that were loosened from the bonds of physics clustered into a disc instead of dispersing naturally. The untargeted leptons, electrons and protons were held in place.

      [Execute FAE Process: Fire]

      The disc-shaped cluster of Baryons shot out like a spear. True to the FAE Theory, the cluster of Baryons exceeded the speed limits of magic, reaching 10,000 kilometers per second.

      [Material: Regenerate]

      All the processes were reversed.

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    • Question - Does anyone know of a dedicated page for volume 16 spoilers/summaries? because I just went through a thread on animesuki that for the most part had 90+ pages of peoples rage/joy at the recent tatsXmiyuki developments... and if I read any more shipper rage I'm quite certain my eyes will start bleeding xD

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    • 45.50.51.9 wrote:
      Question - Does anyone know of a dedicated page for volume 16 spoilers/summaries? because I just went through a thread on animesuki that for the most part had 90+ pages of peoples rage/joy at the recent tatsXmiyuki developments... and if I read any more shipper rage I'm quite certain my eyes will start bleeding xD

      Dedicated page.... then animesuki and here i guess.. it's just that in animesuki everything is in there (comment/summaries/like/rage...etc).... and if a true a summary has been uploaded in animesuki (which is by parts most of the time.. like the "Volume 15 detailed spoiler"), it will compiled here... it's just all we need is to wait because translator also needs to read it first, then enjoy the book, if they like, they will make a summary of it for us...

      also there is 4chan... but they said that 10% is true and 90% is a lie... so i don't visit it... 

      sorry if it's something long to read... I'm not really good in english so i can't think of something that will my make my sentence??? straight... also sorry if some of my grammar is wrong.

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    • TheNoraShinki wrote:
      Hey, Mahesvara, Fujin of Shadows, Nani895 and Oogura Ryuuga, do you guys mind if I compile your spoiler posts into the op with spoiler tags, just to make the whole thing somewhat less messy?

      Also guys, could you please try to avoid excessive quoting and spaces...

      I don't mind. so far idk what to trust with these half baked transalation and wild speculation so for the moment I will be on a leave till tursday(maybe) then I will organise it if no one has,

      Edit: ok I organised it roughly and put up the spoilers  to make it less cluttered I plan to do more later when I have time and gather all the wild spoilers.

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    • Shibata Katsushige had just entered the Ministry of Defense as a staff member this year. Although the job required for them to periodically report to work on their day off, in general, their winter break was not as long as students. Today as well they made sure to give the new guy full day’s work.

      As if he planned the timing, the vision’s incoming call rang.
      “Katsushige-san, I’ll get it”
      “Nah, it’s alright.”

      Katsushige, who had just arrived, stopped Kotona, who was at the entrance to greet him, from returning to the living room. Katsushige operated the terminal imbedded in the wall.

      “Dad, did you need something?”
      Who appeared on the display was his dad, whom he had just seen three days ago, Shibata Osamu, the head of the Shibata family, a branch family of the Yotsuba.
      “Katsushige, you’re back?”
      “Yeah. I just arrived.”
      “Is that so. Well, take a seat.”
      Osamu addressed him from the other side of the screen.
      Katsushige judged that this will take long and sat down on the sofa directly across from the display. The sofa set was a little narrow for Katsushige who was proud of his 180cm, 80kg frame which was a waste for an office worker.
      “Kastushige, how was work?”
      “Since I’m still a newbie…”

      “Hm. Is that right…”

      As Katsushige’s father’s temperament was more of a military man, this kind of hesitation could be said to be rare. Just with that, it’s probably some business that is difficult to express.

      “Dad, is it something to do with this year’s Keijunkai?”

      That’s why Katsushige was the one to ask. In another three days, they will be see each other and for him to specifically call… At this time, he couldn’t think of any other business.

      “That’s correct. The truth is, Shiba Miyuki has just contacted Ogan. It seems she will be coming to the main house on the 29th.

      “Miyuki-san will also be going on the 29th huh?”
      Not only just the Ministry of Defense, currently, all the central ministries do not have New Year’s off. To be ready for any unforeseen circumstances, a set number of personnel report for work. After the repeated world outbreaks of war, the Ministry of Defense in particular has this setup over the entire year. However, the newcomer Katsushige has been given the traditional holiday from the 29th.
      “But, so what?”
      Katsushige asked curiously while remembering the face of his younger relative with the other-worldly beauty. At this Keijunnkai, all the family head candidates will be attending so it’s not a mystery that Miyuki will be staying at the main house after year end. Katsushige couldn’t understand why his father specifically called him about Miyuki’s circumstances.
      “Katsushige”
      “Yes..?”
      Taking a turn for the worse, his father called his name. Katsushige was feeling increasingly suspicious. However, with his father’s next statement, that trivial doubt was completely blown away.
      “We cannot allow Miyuki to attend the Keijunnkai.”
      The words did not come out. It’s not that they were lost, but with doubt spreading in his heart, he was confused as to which to ask..
      “...May I know why?”
      In the end, what he chose was a common, generic question.
      “At the Keijunnkai, Maya-san intends to name Miyuki as the next family head.”
      “Is that so? How unfortunate.”
      As Katsushige was answering, he was surprised that he wasn’t shocked.
      Certainly, Miyuki was an outstanding Magician, and at the same time, she excelled in the mental interference type magic that was a special characteristic of the Yotsuba.
      However, although it is said that importance is placed on a Yotsuba family head having mental interference type magic, this is not an absolute condition. The previous head Eisaku, and his predecessor Motozou were high-level mental interference type magic practitioners but the current family head who was chosen was not Miya who was a mental restructuring practitioner but Maya who did not have an aptitude for mental interference type magic. Furthermore, in terms of close range combat power, Katsushige believes that he excels over Miyuki.

      Katsushige thought that the possibility of him being chosen as the next family head was certainly not low. However, he was not that shocked at having been informed that he wasn’t chosen...
      (The truth is that he himself probably understood. Miyuki exceeds as a Yotsuba magician)
      “Father, is it possible that you are doing this for me? It’s alright. I am already an adult so if it’s only just to give my blessing, I can do it.”
      Although Katsushige was able to smile, it didn’t take that much effort.
      It is not that.
      His father, Osamu’s, reply however were instead strong words of denial..
      “At the Keijunnkai, Maya-san intends to name Miyuki as the next family head. However, we will not allow that to happen.”
      Unbelievable words.
      “Father…… don’t tell me that you intend to rebel against the current family head and the Yotsuba?”
      Katsushige strongly criticised.
      “Publicly, the next family head is decided by the Main Family head and the branch family heads . If you think about the influence the main family head has on the entire family, substantially, the next family head is decided by said family head. For example, if the branch family heads all choose to support me, I do not think I would be able to get the support of the entire family. I am sure that you understand at least that much.”
      Against Katsushige’s predictions, Osamu was nodding inside the screen.
      “I understand. I also think that Miyuki will become the next family head and I don’t intend to go against this although I do think that you would be suitable.”
      “......What do you mean then?”
      “Miyuki becoming the next family head is inevitable. However, it is still too early for that.”
      “With Miyuki being chosen as the next family head, I don’t think that it means that Maya will immediately retire.”
      “I am saying it is too early for Miyuki to be chosen as the next family head”
      Katsushige did not understand the true meaning of what his father was saying. He could understand that it was too soon to become the new family head. However, what harm was there in being simply named as the successor?
      “There is no problem with Miyuki herself. She will become a magician worthy of being the Yotsuba family head.”
      Osamu’s words made Katsushige more and more confused.
      “......then, what is the problem?”
      “The problem is Miyuki’s guardian.”
      “Tatsuya-kun? Certainly there could be a problem with him as a magician, but in terms of his actual ability as a combat magician, there is no room for doubts. As taurus silver, he contributes greatly to the Yotsuba’s finances, and above all, he is Japan’s trump card, being a strategic class magician. Compared to his [Material Burst], Itsuwa Mio-San’s [Abyss]’s power and even its input requirements are restrictive.
      “It is that Material Burst which is the problem. That magic is too powerful. Because it was used in the southern part of the Korean peninsula, More than myself, you who work for the Ministry of Defense should know the kind of diplomatic negotiations that took place with the anti-Japan military alliances.”
      “Certainly, that had happened, but, at the same time there is an increase in activity behind the scenes towards the conclusion of a defense treaty. Among the countries sounded out for an alliance included the New Soviet Union. Although it is a minus that tensions with the USNA has increased, within the ministry, it is thought that the restraint put on the surrounding countries is a plus.”
      “If more value is being placed in those kinds of political transactions, then even more so, we need to remove that man from the center of the Yotsuba so that we do not become dragged into the expectations of politicians. For this, we need more time. Now, if Miyuki is named as the next family head, that man will be by her side. That will be the root of our Yotsuba’s future problems.”
      Osamu’s assertions are, at first glance, reasonable. However, to Katsushige, he cannot help think that they are trying to justify avoiding this problem head on because of the emotions involved.

      “Father… Father is, no, father along with all the other branch family heads, why do you wish to go to those lengths to exclude Tatsuya-kun?”
      Osamu’s expressions vanished from his face. He may have also intended to hide his agitation. However, that emotionless mask was not something that had happened yesterday. Katsushige could see that the dregs of these sentiments were accumulated over the course of many years.
      “That overwhelming power is a danger to the stability of the world. We seek a power in which no one will become a victim. We do not wish for the power to shake the world.”

      “However, surely that isn’t Tatsuya’s responsibility.”

      “We don’t intend for that man to bear that responsibility. Leaving our responsibility aside, we will seal that man, that magic.”

      Katsushige realized that persuading him was useless.

      “ーーwhat would you have me do”?”

      Katsushige decided that all he could do was to avoid meaningless collateral damage.
      “Mashiba and Shizuka are already moving to confine him”
      “Kuroba-dono is not?”

      Katsushige asked out of surprise. Both the Mashiba and Shizuka families did not specialize in intelligence. They probably had the same abilities as the rest of the Ten Master Clan families, but within the Yotsuba, the Kuroba specialized in intelligence. As the maneuvering involved with confining a target demanded subtle actions, he thought it was unnatural that the Kuroba would not be involved.
      “The Kuroba family also approves with the removal of Shiba Tatsuya. However, Kuroba-dono has said he will restrain himself from meddling as his children hold that man in great regard.”
      “Is that right… then, what specifically will we do?”
      After the explanation that seemed like all the branch families were in agreement, The branch families, possessing extremely effective war potential, will fall into the actual work. It seemed that he would not just be feeling anxious in the future, but Katsushige had decided that his role would be to hold the damage to a minimum. To that end, he needed to know the plans.
      “There is no need to injure Miyuki. Our objective is always confinement. It is enough for him not to make it in time for New Year’s.”
      Katsushige was a little relieved that the plan was more peaceful than he thought.
      “Your turn will come on the 31st. If the confinement works till then, fine. In case Mashiba-dono and Shizuka-dono fail, you will be our last defense.”
      “Please tell me the details. Once I understand, Mashiba-dono and Shizuka-dono’s plans as well.”

      In answer to Katsushige’s query, the details of the conspiracy was told from the mouth of his father.

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    • So in the end the branch leader of the family are a bunch of coward who cannot accept the true that tatsuya is far powerfull than the other people of yotsuba, for me this is a sign that the engagment beetwen tatsuya and miyuki is for put tatsuya in a place of comand

      After reading that seems that only the 4th generation of yotsuba( the leader pf the branch family) are against tatsuya beacause the kuroba twins don't look down on him, kuroba mitsugu propìbably is to prideous for admit it

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    • So the two guardian of Shibata Katsushige attack tatsuya but finally miyuki and tatsuya arrive at the meeting, all of us could say this because because we know that in the night of the 31th december maya say that miyuki is not the sister of tatsuya but her fiancee, and all the thing that we know, so in the end the plan of the branch family is failed( i say this because they arrive safe at the meeting, for me the two guardian just do some sparring with tatsuya and Shibata Katsushige wuold do nothing( this is just a speculation of mine), because if someone wuold harm tatsuya or restrict is magic probably will suffer the anger of miyuki and maya, and when the two of them are angered i won't know what happer XD)

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    • BTW i have a question: the head of the branch family are stupid or what?

      The most powerfull magic of tatsuya are already blocked because they decided that miyuki has to act as his limiter and since miyuki unlock tatsuya power and he use the third eye as a CAD or something similar to the third eye he couldn't use the material burst, so why they have to increase the anger of tatsuya versus the family or they are so full of pride that do somenthing so stupid that even a baby wuold not do!?

      For me this for tatsuya could be very usefull because that prove the fact that the family is so desperate to attack him for sealing his power for not recognize him as a magician and lose all from the line to the bottom, just in the end of the 15th volume maya tried to so something for tatsuya about the evaluation of his action in the assasination of Zhou Gounji and in that occasion some family said that probably is stupid to mainting the grudge against tatsuya, other family said the opposite and the Kuroba head said that he cannot evavlute that because he failed that mission( coward!!!!! He didn't said nothing because if he said something probably is pride will be destroyed, in the other hand the one who save tatsuya during his assassination was the head of the kuroba( probably for some sense of guilty toward Maya & Miya and for tatsuya( the fact that he his called the sin of yotsuba is just the sense of fear of the branch family, for the moment the only error that tatsuya had done is the fact that he his born[ for the most part of the yotsuba])

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    • I'll waiting for the lina comeback, it will be cool if in the end of the story tatsuya become the head of the yotsuba( for this is a fact) and will marry lina( i'm not a fan of tatsuyaXmiyuki), for me when tatsuya will understand the true feeling of miyuki( not a twisted version because is the only strong emotion that he had) probably he could think more about lina honoka erika and mayumi,.........( this is mine opinion)

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    • no i hate honoka annoying Character like ran from detective conan and this crazy girl from yuyu hakusho. and when he becomes sudenly all lovey dovey with another girls ist just bullshit. 

      Miyuki is created and destined for Tatsuya!

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    • 2.34.253.169 wrote: I'll waiting for the lina comeback, it will be cool if in the end of the story tatsuya become the head of the yotsuba( for this is a fact) and will marry lina( i'm not a fan of tatsuyaXmiyuki), for me when tatsuya will understand the true feeling of miyuki( not a twisted version because is the only strong emotion that he had) probably he could think more about lina honoka erika and mayumi,.........( this is mine opinion)

      Hah,go get schooled moron! You can't even form correct sentences,what gives you the right to question the author's decisions?

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    • In my opinion, Tatsuya and miyuki story base from adam and eve story

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    • tq for sharing

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    • I can’t understand branches heads got butthurt so hard, especially when the young generation of yotsuba can’t understand it as well. Why did they want to stop tatsuya, even if they know it’s to late deal with him. Why are they so afraid of him when they know MI magic is his weak point.  Why are they taking all this risk. It’s just weird, so I started thinking about this and came up with some crazy theories.

      Let’s put some events in timeline:

      1.      tatsuya’s born

      2.      miyuki’s created to seal tatsuya

      3.      Guardians training

      4.      Operation – erasing tatsuya’s urges

      5.      Okinawa

      6.      Mb first use

      7.      Mb sealed by miyuki

      Hmm there is something terrible illogical in this list. Wait … they’d created miyuki magic to seal tatsuya and waited 13 years to use it, after he’d showed MB. It’s impossible for this branch heads to let him keep his full power for 13 years. They had to seal him much earlier after miyuki’s born. So there has to be 2 seals or maybe because it’s miyuki magic that seals him, its one seal but has 2 layers. First put when tatsuya was young, second after MB. Remember a conversation between kazama and kudou retsu, everyone was thinking why kazama was talking about seals in plural number, instead of one seal. I was wondering why they are so afraid of tatsuya to act so stupid.  There’s one logical explanation, fear can be beat by bigger fear, maybe they don’t afraid of tatsuya’s MB, how did they even predict tatsuya’d be able to use something like MB, it seems imposible (miya in vol 8 said scientists categorized Mb as impossible to do and it was 13 years later), maybe they didn’t afraid of MB, maybe they were scared of something else, maybe they aren’t scared of tatsuya “current” state, but his previous state, his full-power that they sealed.

      So what would be his full power.? What we know about seal?:

      1.      Limit tatsuya’s psion number

      2.      Restrict Tatsuya’s ES … wait, what. I know ES is related with other abilities, but they have god of destruction in family and what they chose to seal, was ES instead of decomposition. They prayed for protector, they could just seal his decomposition and have prayed savior :P so why did they seal ES.

      What do we know about ES? Tatsuya can read material information dimension. Tatsuya can’t use MB with seal but has no problem with using Mist Dispersion. Why ? Maybe without seal tatsuya can read more detailed information. So maybe information dimension has layers, the deeper you go the more detailed information you get. So what layer the first seal is blocking.

      Let’s put it into graph for better view :P

       

      ES:

      Basic layer

      Molecular Layer

      ---Miyuki Seal---

      Energy movement Layer

      ---First Seal---

      ?????

       

      So what kind of information is sealing? Let’s take some facts from novel in consideration:

      1.      ES has equivalent in ancient magic, which is called „ Eyes of the Spirits” (ancient magic is older than modern, so we can assume ESs coming from ancient magic)

      2.      Tatsuya grandma come from Abe clan, in Japanese mythology onmyōji. they were fighting with evil yokai and ghost, in mahouka’s world, we can put them into category of “spiritual being”

      3.      Black hole experiment in usa was based on theory that information dimension has 2 layers one for material information, second for spiritual information and the border that separates them. Only gravitation go through both layers, so experiment was about creating black hole by breaking a border (correct me if I’m wrong)

      So if ES is ancient magic spell, is probably came from Abe clan. If they are ancient magic user, they are probably related with spiritual magic as well. So you know where I’m heading now :P Why Tatsuya can’t see spiritual being, maybe he could, but cant now because they sealed it. And tatsuya’s ES full power is not only “see” material information but spiritual as well. That would make him true god (shiva), if he can see it he’ll be able to decompose it etc. Some people are more afraid of losing their spirit that body. Furthermore seeing spirit => seeing pushions => seeing MI => decompose MI => being counter for MI => being natural enemy of all MI magicians => born in MI family => being f*** up.

      Sry for my English :P

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    • Hey, I have translated chapter 3 of volume 14 after the "remain intact" part here https://www.mediafire.com/?0ihuiw5es0asap1

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    • 212.109.132.205 wrote:

      I agree that it is a possibility. Also possible is that as he matured, he has been able to do more with less. They purposely crippled him as a child by putting a seal on him and created Miyuki to be his companion and limiter. Later, they decide/realize that it's not enough, so they cripple him emotionally to prevent him from strong emotions that might lead to intentional or unintentional use of his power to destroy the world, to prevent him from being totally crippled, they give him an artificial MCA. However, there is a 'unintentional defect' in the MI operation and his love for Miyuki is not destroyed. Later, he goes on a rampage after she is killed by pro-GAA traitors at Okinawa and they have him become her Guardian and have her limit him even further (?!). To me, this suggests more that they are constantly putting a patch on an imperfect seal. Even now, they are still trying to seal his power completely. Tatsuya has either been breaking their seals or making do with less--using his Decomposition power even while they seal so much of it away.

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    • @anon 116.74.40.144 - Thanks for the rest of the chapter, I was really wondering what happened.

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    • behind the last spoiler,results that maya, miyuki, mitsugi , tatsuya have understood other plans towards to him maya - son, miyuki lover, mitsugu living in the shadow,

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    • do you know where is the chapter in Chinese or Japanese?

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    • ty for the chapter anon

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    • I copy Chap2's summary here before it gets deleted by animesuki

      (Credit: Big thank to Flere821 from animesuki)

      Disclaimer: I missed out a lot of things, so this won't be a replacement for reading the LNs. Mods please don't delete this.

      Miyuki reported to Tats after he got back about Yuuka's plan to travel together. After considering this might be a trap or power play (eg someone was after Yuuka, and since Tats only cares about protecting Miyuki they might get flak if another heir candidate dies around them) Tats told Miyuki to reply to Yuuka they won't travel with her, and stick with their usual travel plans to the main house. Tats decided there's not information to tell for sure what's the best plan, but he concluded travelling together might be worse.

      Yuuka got Miyuki's rejection call, and afterwards thought that turned out exactly as she expected - if they agreed after the lack of information, she'd be surprised. She knows Shibata, Kuroba and Shizuku branch heads has something against Tatsuya. Yuuka also thinks that's crazy, since she knows Tats has MB and is generally a good fighter, and there's no guarantee that after pushing this much Tats will play nice.

      Yuuka have already gave up on being heir, and the Tsukuba family had long agreed on backing Miyuki. To others they kept up the charade of Yuuka being a heir to gain concessions from other branch families. Traditionally only the most talented magician becomes the Main Family Head, and Yuuka knows Miyuki has that won hands down. Tsukuba as a whole believes out of all of Yotsuba, including Maya, Miyuki has the most talent. Yuuka expects at the meeting the reason why the branch family heads' enmity towards Tatsuya, and why Tatsuya was seen as a flawed work, will be revealed as Miyuki becomes Head.

      After talking to Yuuka Miyuki phoned Yotsuba main house to tell them Miyuki & others are heading there on 29th, given meeting is on 31st. This got leaked to other branch families.

      Shibata head, Osamu, phoned Katsushige. After some meandering, Osamu ordered Katsushige to make sure Miyuki misses the meeting. At Katsushige's accusation that Osamu is going against Maya's wishes (it's revealed Maya or main head basically have full control over who's the next heir, not even if the rest of the branch families banding together supporting one candidate can change that), Osamu clarified he fully agrees Miyuki should be Clan Head, just not this soon. Osamu fed Katsushige lines about how they need time to remove Tats from Yotsuba since he's a strategic class magician, so he can work for the army as the deterrent against other nations (separation between 10MC and politics come into play). After Scorching Halloween many countries are willing to sign peace treaties, include the new soviet.

      Katsushige didn't buy that excuse, and Osamu came clean: Yotsuba's wishes was to have enough power so their family can never be hurt again (spoilers from earlier about Tats' birth being affected by wishes), not to have enough power to change the world. Tats was too strong, and so he needs to be sealed. Even if it's not Tats' fault, the Yotsuba needs to take responsibility. Katsushige knows he can't change Osamu's mind, and agreed to help. Mashiba and Shizuka is already doing something, and the branch heads stopped relying on Kuroba when it appeared they're not going to go all out on him since the Kuroba twins like Tats. Katsushige was originally planned to be the last line of defence if others got wiped out, but Katsushige instead asked for details so they can fight together.

      A ex-member of Sakai's group was contacted by a 'shadowy featureless figure', and brainwashed to attack Miyuki to use her as a hostage for Sakai's release. Miyuki as a Yotsuba VIP was leaked here, even if she's not stated to be Yotsuba blood. The ex-member was given a way to break out psychic/esper inmates the Japan govt held after WW3, since they were too dangerous/powerful to let free but not dangerous to kill in case they need them. Those experimented upon psychics hate the 10MC, so they'd be willing to strike at the Yotsuba. They're planned to attack Miyuki on 29th.

      The shadowy figure went on to plan for a 2nd wave attack, contacting a proponent for peaceful relations with GAA who took over the base Tats and Masaki took down. The proponent was told the Yotsuba was on the hunt again, killing GAA sympathizers; and the proponent was told he was also on the kill-list. No brainwashing was involved, he was told if he wants to live he needs to contact his other Traditionalist magician allies and take down the magician who attacked the base on the 30th as they pass through a train station.

      Ch2 ends.

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    • есть ли 1 глава 16 тома на английском?

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    • After reading this i continue thinking about the stupid mentality of the 4th generation of yotsuba branch family leader, someone have gave up but don't do nothing for changing the situation and other will try to put the situation under worse condition

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    • i think so shadow is Zhou i sdon`t know why but i am sure he is and hope Tatsuya kills hin and the Black Sage in Vol 17 or 18 :D

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    • plz post the translation for tatsuya vs Katsushige translation someone

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    • So the youngster yotsuba know that have tatsuya as an enemy is like travel in the hell, the only people that don't know this or ignore this are the elder of the yotsuba XDXD There will be a lot of fight in this volume i'm very happy

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    • how many chapters in vol 16?

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    • just readed 16 volume... acording to Maya, Miyuki and Tatsuya a like distant reletives... 5-6 generetions apart in genetic sense, but despite that they have the same biological mother... gene modification... the best analogy I could think of -- car factory (for example Porche) : in WW2 Porche was producting tanks, nowedays it producting sport cars...

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    • Can anyone translate Family Tree Templete please (^_^)

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    • There is a partially translated image of the Yotsuba Family Genealogy on the Yotsuba page; along with the names of the family members etc. on the side.

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    • guys plz give me a link where have all summaries to vol 16

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    • Fujin of shadows wrote:
       

      You guys are in denial. Miyuki won, end of story. If Miyuki dies, Tatsuya becomes a demon, then the world goes bye-bye.

      ......

      as a guy i much prefer to settle this in hareem style.

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    • So will anyone be able to translate the full chapters or can we only get little bits and peices because of yen press?

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    • Someone had translated the first and the second chapter but we won't know if she/he will continue because in the other chapter there are diffucult terms and definition to translate.....( i'm not capable of reading chinese/japanese, i have wrote what the translator sad)

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    • </div> as a guy i much prefer to settle this in hareem style. </div>

      Hell yeah. I used to hate hareem's endings but now I frigging want one!

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    • 37.117.189.99 wrote:
      Someone had translated the first and the second chapter but we won't know if she/he will continue because in the other chapter there are diffucult terms and definition to translate.....( i'm not capable of reading chinese/japanese, i have wrote what the translator sad)

      may I get a link to it or has he/she not made it public.

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    • 70.65.116.234 wrote:
      37.117.189.99 wrote:
      Someone had translated the first and the second chapter but we won't know if she/he will continue because in the other chapter there are diffucult terms and definition to translate.....( i'm not capable of reading chinese/japanese, i have wrote what the translator sad)
      may I get a link to it or has he/she not made it public.

      The link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kOcYwykT7_k9099kDCwNdgtOqnRw2st0qOqJQDV9Srw/edit?pli=1

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    • 103.10.197.218 wrote:
      70.65.116.234 wrote:
      37.117.189.99 wrote:
      Someone had translated the first and the second chapter but we won't know if she/he will continue because in the other chapter there are diffucult terms and definition to translate.....( i'm not capable of reading chinese/japanese, i have wrote what the translator sad)
      may I get a link to it or has he/she not made it public.
      The link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kOcYwykT7_k9099kDCwNdgtOqnRw2st0qOqJQDV9Srw/edit?pli=1

      Thanks alot was a pretty good read.

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    • I'm totally pissed, the fact that we were led to believe that Miyuki and Tatsuya were related pisses me off, it seems like the author of the light novel is only breaking the news about this realization so he can pair Miyuki and Tatsuya together. For 15 volumes my hope was that the author wouldn't put them together because they were brother and sister, but hell no he just changed the story and put them together anyway. Because I was pulling against it the entire time, I can't say that I'm happy at all with what happened. I had turned into someone hoping the pairing to turn into Mayumi and Tatsuya, for 15 volumes this is what I wanted, and the thing that I absolutely didn't want to happen did. I won't be able to see the two of them as anything other than brother and sister. I can only hope that the engagement changes, because this situation could jeopardize how much I like this novel. Following Tatsuya's critical nature, the moment he learned Miyuki wasn't his sister, any emotional development toward her should have shattered since his only emotion remaining is the love for his sister, since he doesn't have one, he shouldn't love her. It just doesn't make sense and I'm pissed off. And then boom, I find out that they are still brother and sister! So I'm kinda confused too, if he develops other emotions for Miyuki I will be livid, because what was to stop him from developing anything towards Honoka (Not that I wanted that pair) after she constantly tried to win Tatsuya over!? He only tolerated her because she was Miyuki's friend and making her sad would have upset Miyuki's school atmospehere.

      I'm just saying....if the engagement isn't cut off and Miyuki doesn't fall in love with somebody else, one of my favorite light novels will be ruined for me

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    • Eagle eyes98 wrote:
      I'm totally pissed, the fact that we were led to believe that Miyuki and Tatsuya were related pisses me off, it seems like the author of the light novel is only breaking the news about this realization so he can pair Miyuki and Tatsuya together. For 15 volumes my hope was that the author wouldn't put them together because they were brother and sister, but hell no he just changed the story and put them together anyway. Because I was pulling against it the entire time, I can't say that I'm happy at all with what happened. I had turned into someone hoping the pairing to turn into Mayumi and Tatsuya, for 15 volumes this is what I wanted, and the thing that I absolutely didn't want to happen did. I won't be able to see the two of them as anything other than brother and sister. I can only hope that the engagement changes, because this situation could jeopardize how much I like this novel. Following Tatsuya's critical nature, the moment he learned Miyuki wasn't his sister, any emotional development toward her should have shattered since his only emotion remaining is the love for his sister, since he doesn't have one, he shouldn't love her. It just doesn't make sense and I'm pissed off. And then boom, I find out that they are still brother and sister! So I'm kinda confused too, if he develops other emotions for Miyuki I will be livid, because what was to stop him from developing anything towards Honoka (Not that I wanted that pair) after she constantly tried to win Tatsuya over!? He only tolerated her because she was Miyuki's friend and making her sad would have upset Miyuki's school atmospehere.

      I'm just saying....if the engagement isn't cut off and Miyuki doesn't fall in love with somebody else, one of my favorite light novels will be ruined for me

      I also wanted mayumi X tats but I dont believe he would lose all feeling for his sister he just doesnt see her as a member of the oposite sex well one he would want to have children with odds are she will die and he will go nuts.

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    • For those who complain about the relationship of tats and miyuki. why not just wait for the story to unfolded and see how the author finishes the story, instead of thinking that the pairing tats and miyuki as the end of the novel. And if you guys have only been reading this ln for the shipping, then stop reading,  I started reading this series because i want to find what exactly is tatusuya and friends facing in the near future and what are maya true plans(not the once shown in in rough translation of volume 16)(i am talking about the whole plan that she actually has in her mind) besides using tatsuya as weapon for something. Arent you guys curious as to what enemy they have to face and the plans of said enemy has instore for the characters. as far as relationship can go it only an extra, its the action, mystery, character interactions and sometimes comedy of the series that really attracted me here in the first place. and if you must know i also ship mayumi x tatsuya or lina x tatsuya. but i dont complain about what the author wrote in story. if you want to satisfy your shipping choices read fanfiction or something, shipping is the smallest part of a story, dont think just because the shipping is shit in your mind that the series is over.

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    • Eagle eyes98 wrote:
      I'm totally pissed, the fact that we were led to believe that Miyuki and Tatsuya were related pisses me off, it seems like the author of the light novel is only breaking the news about this realization so he can pair Miyuki and Tatsuya together. For 15 volumes my hope was that the author wouldn't put them together because they were brother and sister, but hell no he just changed the story and put them together anyway. Because I was pulling against it the entire time, I can't say that I'm happy at all with what happened. I had turned into someone hoping the pairing to turn into Mayumi and Tatsuya, for 15 volumes this is what I wanted, and the thing that I absolutely didn't want to happen did. I won't be able to see the two of them as anything other than brother and sister. I can only hope that the engagement changes, because this situation could jeopardize how much I like this novel. Following Tatsuya's critical nature, the moment he learned Miyuki wasn't his sister, any emotional development toward her should have shattered since his only emotion remaining is the love for his sister, since he doesn't have one, he shouldn't love her. It just doesn't make sense and I'm pissed off. And then boom, I find out that they are still brother and sister! So I'm kinda confused too, if he develops other emotions for Miyuki I will be livid, because what was to stop him from developing anything towards Honoka (Not that I wanted that pair) after she constantly tried to win Tatsuya over!? He only tolerated her because she was Miyuki's friend and making her sad would have upset Miyuki's school atmospehere.

      I'm just saying....if the engagement isn't cut off and Miyuki doesn't fall in love with somebody else, one of my favorite light novels will be ruined for me

      I think you are misunderstaing (or maybe i am) but from what i read, Miyuki and Tatsuya are siblings (Both are Miya's kids) . However Miyuki's  body has been genetically altered (after birth) to ensure that she is the perfect women. This means that they can have perfectly healthy kids without worrying about the fact that kids will suffer from problems due to inbreeding. So in someways they are siblings (Both have the same parents), but in other ways they are not (The order if DNA in them are completely different) .  It also makes sense that she is Tatsuya's fiancee, as she is his limiter. I think the author is also thinking in the sense of creating the strongest couple. 

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    • You're all misunderstanding. Miyuki was conceived in a lab, then as an embryo she was modified to be Tatsuya's partner and Miya carried her to term. After she was born they did the finishing touches with MI and the result is as you all can see.

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    • lina's back to japan then she's challenge duel miyuki and who win get tatsuya.[LOL] XD

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    • i finished the tanslation .

      chapter 16. 1-7..

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    • Sooo where it isss?

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    • 49.144.168.248 wrote:
      i finished the tanslation .

      chapter 16. 1-7..

      Give it to usss ;)

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    • 49.144.168.248 wrote: i finished the tanslation .

      chapter 16. 1-7..

      You should share it with everyone :D

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    • 49.144.168.248 wrote:
      i finished the tanslation .

      chapter 16. 1-7..

      If you share it I will love you forever!

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    • 79.185.225.103 wrote:
      49.144.168.248 wrote:
      i finished the tanslation .

      chapter 16. 1-7..

      Give it to usss ;)

      Yes.please share to us :)

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    • PLEASE SHARE IT OUT !!! I BEG YOU !!!


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    • 60.49.48.187 wrote:
      PLEASE SHARE IT OUT !!! I BEG YOU !!!


      he could be leing but who cares im willing to wait.

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    • 60.49.48.187 wrote:
      PLEASE SHARE IT OUT !!! I BEG YOU !!!


      he could be leing but who cares im willing to wait.

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    • Just read volume 16 chinese translations. Found out a few things. Tatsuya killed his first person when he was 6, Tatsuya "powers" is an aftermath of a Yotsuba "wish" to create someone who was capable of saving their family (e.g. When Maya got abducted) but it backfired as the Yotsuba true wish was destruction against the world (thats why Tatsuya has decomposition and restoraton).

      Also, when Tatsuya and Miyuki "slept together", Miyuki used Tatsuya's arm as an arm pillow. Apparently it happened before at Miya's funeral (hope we get a spin off to that time).

      I'll translate the part where Miyuki and Tatsuya were sleeping together for fun so don't hate me T.T

      "Miyuki it's late and we have to get up early tommorow. Go to sleep"

      "Eh.. That's true let me get the bedding"

      When she was about to stand up, her hand was suddenly grabbed by Tatsuya

      "Onii-sama?"

      "There's no need, since Aunt prepared this for us. Let's sleep together tonight."

      "Eh!?"

      Miyuki gave a soft shriek.

      "T-that... Onii-sama, this, you don't mean..."

      "No. Not that."

      Tatsuya looked at Miyuki and gave a mischievious smirk.

      "Just sleeping together. No other meaning."

      "Is that so..."

      Miyuki let out a sigh. From her actions it seems she had a tinge of regret.

      "I'll go wear my pyjamas. You enter the bed first."

      "No... At this point of time, i can wait for abit. I'll wait for you."

      "Alright, i'll be right there."

      This room has all neccaries provided including a yukata for sleeping. Tatsuya confirmed this the moment he entered the room and it took him no time to search for his pyjamas. Tatsuya quickly changed and went back.

      "Onii-sama, aren't you feeling cold?"

      When Miyuki saw Tatsya's negligees, she worridely asked him.

      "No, even though it looks like this, the sleepwear is quite warm."

      Tatsuya got into the quilts and beckoned Miyuki over.

      Miyuki stiffened a little but eventually entered Tatsuya's arms.

      "I wonder how long it has been. In the past, probably when i was very little, i feel that i slept with onii-sama like this."

      "It was not long ago. It was the day of Okaa-sama's funeral."

      "Yes... It was like that. How could i not remember?"

      Miyuki looked towards Tatsuya

      "Onii-sama"

      "Yes?"

      "Onii-sama, you don't know right?"

      "Yes"

      "How much i suffered over this issue"

      "I'm sorry"

      "Especially in recent days. Society requires magicians to marry early, if you want to maintain your status as a magician, you must at least have one marriage candidate, so i resolved myself."

      "Yes"

      "But siblings can't marry. So, i would have been with a man who is not Onii-sama"

      "Miyuki"

      Tatsuya's hand gently stroked Miyuki's hair.

      "Sleep"

      "Yes, Onii-sama

      Miyuki entrusted both her body and heart to Tatsuya, listening to the sound of the distant new year bells while sleeping in Tatsuya's embrace.

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    • 182.19.231.163 wrote:
      Just read volume 16 chinese translations. Found out a few things. Tatsuya killed his first person when he was 6, Tatsuya "powers" is an aftermath of a Yotsuba "wish" to create someone who was capable of saving their family (e.g. When Maya got abducted) but it backfired as the Yotsuba true wish was destruction against the world (thats why Tatsuya has decomposition and restoraton).

      Also, when Tatsuya and Miyuki "slept together", Miyuki used Tatsuya's arm as an arm pillow. Apparently it happened before at Miya's funeral (hope we get a spin off to that time).

      I'll translate the part where Miyuki and Tatsuya were sleeping together for fun so don't hate me T.T

      "Miyuki it's late and we have to get up early tommorow. Go to sleep"

      "Eh.. That's true let me get the bedding"

      When she was about to stand up, her hand was suddenly grabbed by Tatsuya

      "Onii-sama?"

      "There's no need, since Aunt prepared this for us. Let's sleep together tonight."

      "Eh!?"

      Miyuki gave a soft shriek.

      "T-that... Onii-sama, this, you don't mean..."

      "No. Not that."

      Tatsuya looked at Miyuki and gave a mischievious smirk.

      "Just sleeping together. No other meaning."

      "Is that so..."

      Miyuki let out a sigh. From her actions it seems she had a tinge of regret.

      "I'll go wear my pyjamas. You enter the bed first."

      "No... At this point of time, i can wait for abit. I'll wait for you."

      "Alright, i'll be right there."

      This room has all neccaries provided including a yukata for sleeping. Tatsuya confirmed this the moment he entered the room and it took him no time to search for his pyjamas. Tatsuya quickly changed and went back.

      "Onii-sama, aren't you feeling cold?"

      When Miyuki saw Tatsya's negligees, she worridely asked him.

      "No, even though it looks like this, the sleepwear is quite warm."

      Tatsuya got into the quilts and beckoned Miyuki over.

      Miyuki stiffened a little but eventually entered Tatsuya's arms.

      "I wonder how long it has been. In the past, probably when i was very little, i feel that i slept with onii-sama like this."

      "It was not long ago. It was the day of Okaa-sama's funeral."

      "Yes... It was like that. How could i not remember?"

      Miyuki looked towards Tatsuya

      "Onii-sama"

      "Yes?"

      "Onii-sama, you don't know right?"

      "Yes"

      "How much i suffered over this issue"

      "I'm sorry"

      "Especially in recent days. Society requires magicians to marry early, if you want to maintain your status as a magician, you must at least have one marriage candidate, so i resolved myself."

      "Yes"

      "But siblings can't marry. So, i would have been with a man who is not Onii-sama"

      "Miyuki"

      Tatsuya's hand gently stroked Miyuki's hair.

      "Sleep"

      "Yes, Onii-sama

      Miyuki entrusted both her body and heart to Tatsuya, listening to the sound of the distant new year bells while sleeping in Tatsuya's embrace.

      Thank you

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    • 121.54.54.173 wrote:
      For those who complain about the relationship of tats and miyuki. why not just wait for the story to unfolded and see how the author finishes the story, instead of thinking that the pairing tats and miyuki as the end of the novel. And if you guys have only been reading this ln for the shipping, then stop reading,[...] if you want to satisfy your shipping choices read fanfiction or something, shipping is the smallest part of a story, dont think just because the shipping is shit in your mind that the series is over.

      I think this is exactly the right attitude to take.  If you think Tatsuya and Miyuki getting paired up ruins the entire story, before anything even actually happens between them, then you had better stay away from Game of Thrones as well because incest is right there front and center in that story.  It's taken you guys 17 volumes before you're finally squicked out enough to complain?

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    • Here's the thing about a majority of the people complaining, myself included. From the very start of the light novel, it was extremely apparent that Miyuki was head over heels for Tatsuya. So at that point, you're kinda like "Oh hell is this gonna be one of those light novels?" Then eventually we find out Tatsuya only spoils her because that's his ONE emotion he was left with, so its kinda weird and hints that those two would be the pairing, but that lack emotions is kind of like a safety blanket for the people not wanting those together.

      From what I've read, I assume the other popular pairing would've been Mayumi and Tatsuya, right? Mayumi x Tatsuya fans were teased by the author when Mari questions Mayumi about loving Tatsuya and she was unable to give a believable denial. That pairing has also been hinted at throughout the light novel. Rumors had been going around First High about them being together for almost the entire school year.

      But, Miyuki and Tatsuya were close, but not in the same way. Miyuki loved Tatsuya, and Tatsuya cared for Miyuki, albeit very much. So throughout the light novel Tatsuya is regarded as the over protective brother of the First High beauty.

      To me, both pairs seemed to have a fair chance at least....though Miyuki was probably more favorable. OF course, since things were the way they were, once it was said that Tatsuya was supposed to marry Miyuki people were gonna say "This is obvious, how could you see anything diferent?" but if Miyuki hadn't been the one, the other pairings would've been doing the exact same thing "You knew they wouldn't end up together, They're siblings" or something like that.

      And yeah right now I do feel kind of stupid for believing that anything different would happen. This is Japan we're talking about, and Japan is a pretty weird place. For people that were pulling for other ships, they're going to call this incest, and that's exactly what it is. You can ay her genes are modified all you want but their still siblings and thus it's still incest. The author tried to lessen the impact of that by pulling some strings an making it seem less surreal for people who would react badly.

      Personally, I'm waiting for the author to change things. He can be with Honoka, Mayumi, Erik, etc. as long as it's not Miyuki. I am one of the people who thinks this is immoral.

      I could say more, but I'm not exactly sure how I would say it so I guess I'm done xP

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    • I don't think the author disagrees with you that incest is immoral.  Remember who we're dealing with here.  Maya Yotsuba is damaged goods from way back; heck the whole Yotsuba clan is screwy all the way back to the early 4th Research Institute days.  They've always been morally questionable, from the get.  (Compare Unit 731.)  I don't think Maya gives a rip about incest or morality; she's always been out to create a super-Magician that she can control and use to exact her revenge on the world for all the crap she's been through in her life.  If it's not Tatsuya (who's been proving less and less agreeable to being her tool) and not Miyuki (who is also apt to rebel against her), then she's perfectly happy to pair those two up and see what comes out of it.  She wants to become Queen-B*tch of the World and then probably blow it to bits.

      This is just my opinion based on what I've read so far.  I haven't read anything past Vol. 12 yet so I can't really say a lot about what happens in 16 and 17; all I have to go on is what others have said, and I don't necessarily trust their reports.

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    • I think you all forgot something. We're talking about 2096 year. There were 20 years of WW3 with 6 billion died, magic and magician appeared and so on. There is no way morality remain the same as nowadays. If take into account the existence of "families" (clans) and desire these "families" to improve unique features, then incest should be researched in the first place.

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    • If morality was not of an issue in the Mahoukaverse, then the Kudou wouldn't feel ashamed to reveal Minoru as a product of incest and genetic enhancements. There clearly is a morality that exists within the confines of the series, Miyuki would have never felt shame for having incestuous feelings for Tatsuya from the beginning. There is also the question of morality related to using humans as weapons and other issues related to human experimentation.

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    • 166.137.240.17 

      Well, all as you say and this is a drawback of this series, because it's too illogical (IMO). There is mandatory marriages (mostly arranged marriages) and requirement to give birth early, just because in average next generation is stronger. And no one complains. But incest is forbidden to such an extent that it's even not researched by inhumane laboratories. It's too illogical. 

      Perhaps it's my complaints to author though)

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    • By Dark Angel

      For people compaining about the shippings in the series, let me remind you this is not a romance sereiesd that focuses its sotry in the relationship of the characters involved, but about magic, mystery and many other things, romance is the least important factor. and its that least important factor that people focus on while simplifiying the rest of the story, as this bithc is crazy and want to destory the world. I think people should stop making the series revovle around the sromance and relationships, but back to the main plot, magic itself, the mystery, conspiracies and who are pulling the strings and the ultimate goal of these said string pullers. the relationship  thing is just being used as small parts to a bigger machine, or igntion to start up the engine, instead trying to see what the realtionship is being used for, people instead focus on the small part of the whole machine while not minding what the machine is actually doing.

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    • by Dark Angel

      and in the topic of morality, incest is taboo, but think on our ancient cultures, pharoahs, kings and queens of ancient times are actually sibilings. so instead of saying incest is taboo, its was once accepted by ancients cultures, and only become taboo just a few hundred of years ago. when christianity was at its hieght of power. read your mythos. and if you still question me, incest is taboo, so was same sex marriages and premarital sex, but look now some places allow same sex marriages and most teens these days have sex and there not even out of highschool. and japan aint weird, i have been there myself, the people there are well mannered, there alittle uptight. dont base the culture of the japanese from the anime or things they create. stress level there are high for residents, and one of there outlets to let the stress out would be anime and other things they make, such games, gunpla, cosplay, manga(reading or writing), LN(reading or writing), drinking with friends and etc. all the wierd things that japan creates are there creative juices being let loose(as well as stress). before making a comment of the culture of a country do your research first, and not mouth off like a know it all whose knowledge is based on animes manga, LN they read and not from actually factual information.

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    • Txtracer wrote:
      I don't think the author disagrees with you that incest is immoral.  Remember who we're dealing with here.  Maya Yotsuba is damaged goods from way back; heck the whole Yotsuba clan is screwy all the way back to the early 4th Research Institute days.  They've always been morally questionable, from the get.  (Compare Unit 731.)  I don't think Maya gives a rip about incest or morality; she's always been out to create a super-Magician that she can control and use to exact her revenge on the world for all the crap she's been through in her life.  If it's not Tatsuya (who's been proving less and less agreeable to being her tool) and not Miyuki (who is also apt to rebel against her), then she's perfectly happy to pair those two up and see what comes out of it.  She wants to become Queen-B*tch of the World and then probably blow it to bits.

      This is just my opinion based on what I've read so far.  I haven't read anything past Vol. 12 yet so I can't really say a lot about what happens in 16 and 17; all I have to go on is what others have said, and I don't necessarily trust their reports.


      Incredibly true words. I still find it difficult to contemplate that they somehow managed to insert incest into the series. I find it very different implying it to officially expressing it. Well, either way it still exists even if it is all one-sided. I just hope that someone will fix Maya's sanity. This move, whether or not to make Tatsuya heir-apparent indirectly, is not going to help especially since Miyuki herself is not the most stable heir. If later volumes mention a consumnation scene, good bye mahouka koukou no rettousei. 


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    • 121.54.54.249 wrote: by Dark Angel

      and in the topic of morality, incest is taboo, but think on our ancient cultures, pharoahs, kings and queens of ancient times are actually sibilings. so instead of saying incest is taboo, its was once accepted by ancients cultures, and only become taboo just a few hundred of years ago. when christianity was at its hieght of power. read your mythos. and if you still question me, incest is taboo, so was same sex marriages and premarital sex, but look now some places allow same sex marriages and most teens these days have sex and there not even out of highschool. and japan aint weird, i have been there myself, the people there are well mannered, there alittle uptight. dont base the culture of the japanese from the anime or things they create. stress level there are high for residents, and one of there outlets to let the stress out would be anime and other things they make, such games, gunpla, cosplay, manga(reading or writing), LN(reading or writing), drinking with friends and etc. all the wierd things that japan creates are there creative juices being let loose(as well as stress). before making a comment of the culture of a country do your research first, and not mouth off like a know it all whose knowledge is based on animes manga, LN they read and not from actually factual information.

      Ok hotshot, you wanna get technical? Let's get technical. Incest was, in fact, not a sin before Mosaic Law and therefore was not considered immoral by the masses of historic civilizations. Though, incest was only commonly practiced by nobles and such in hierarchies as to keep the "royal blood" within the family so the successors would always be within thee same family. Marriages between relatives were arranged, they were not by choice, so as to whether the majority of people in the practice considered it uncomfortable/awkward or not cannot be determined. When Christianity came along, incest was forbidden if one was to devote themselves to God and because so many people did, other cultures naturally drifted away from the practice of incest. That was hundreds of years ago...this is about a hundred years in the future in a country that is dominated by Christians. It is immoral, as even Tatsuya seemed to have misgivings about (You now the guy who doesn't have strong emotion? yeah he used the word disgusted for the arrangement) Bringing up ancient times has no correlation to what is happening here, this is more akin to cross-breeding crop to produce a superior gene. Bringing up our culture also has little correlation, my generation is sick and twisted, though so is yours, mine is only worse. And Japan is a weird place, not to the Japanese who live there, but to anybody foreign to the country. They are the ones calling for the relationship between Tatsuya and Miyuki you know? They read manga to pass to time, while we read books. They watch anime to relieve stress? I usually watch sports....Their language is transcribed in symbols while ours is in letters. The vast differences in our cultures is what make Japan weird, so trying about that before you have the urge to get haughty again.

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    • Eagle eyes98 wrote:

      121.54.54.249 wrote: by Dark Angel

      and in the topic of morality, incest is taboo, but think on our ancient cultures, pharoahs, kings and queens of ancient times are actually sibilings. so instead of saying incest is taboo, its was once accepted by ancients cultures, and only become taboo just a few hundred of years ago. when christianity was at its hieght of power. read your mythos. and if you still question me, incest is taboo, so was same sex marriages and premarital sex, but look now some places allow same sex marriages and most teens these days have sex and there not even out of highschool. and japan aint weird, i have been there myself, the people there are well mannered, there alittle uptight. dont base the culture of the japanese from the anime or things they create. stress level there are high for residents, and one of there outlets to let the stress out would be anime and other things they make, such games, gunpla, cosplay, manga(reading or writing), LN(reading or writing), drinking with friends and etc. all the wierd things that japan creates are there creative juices being let loose(as well as stress). before making a comment of the culture of a country do your research first, and not mouth off like a know it all whose knowledge is based on animes manga, LN they read and not from actually factual information.

      Ok hotshot, you wanna get technical? Let's get technical. Incest was, in fact, not a sin before Mosaic Law and therefore was not considered immoral by the masses of historic civilizations. Though, incest was only commonly practiced by nobles and such in hierarchies as to keep the "royal blood" within the family so the successors would always be within thee same family. Marriages between relatives were arranged, they were not by choice, so as to whether the majority of people in the practice considered it uncomfortable/awkward or not cannot be determined. When Christianity came along, incest was forbidden if one was to devote themselves to God and because so many people did, other cultures naturally drifted away from the practice of incest. That was hundreds of years ago...this is about a hundred years in the future in a country that is dominated by Christians. It is immoral, as even Tatsuya seemed to have misgivings about (You now the guy who doesn't have strong emotion? yeah he used the word disgusted for the arrangement) Bringing up ancient times has no correlation to what is happening here, this is more akin to cross-breeding crop to produce a superior gene. Bringing up our culture also has little correlation, my generation is sick and twisted, though so is yours, mine is only worse. And Japan is a weird place, not to the Japanese who live there, but to anybody foreign to the country. They are the ones calling for the relationship between Tatsuya and Miyuki you know? They read manga to pass to time, while we read books. They watch anime to relieve stress? I usually watch sports....Their language is transcribed in symbols while ours is in letters. The vast differences in our cultures is what make Japan weird, so trying about that before you have the urge to get haughty again.


      You rock!

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    • 213.87.120.24 wrote:
      I think you all forgot something. We're talking about 2096 year. There were 20 years of WW3 with 6 billion died, magic and magician appeared and so on. There is no way morality remain the same as nowadays. If take into account the existence of "families" (clans) and desire these "families" to improve unique features, then incest should be researched in the first place.


      That doesn't mean its totally gone or forgotten about either.  Besides we already have at least 2 major examples of the results of incestous types of breedings and why they are still frowned upon.  Minorou and Mia.  They are both pretty are strong but physically so weak they are nearly or are handicapped.  This also reflects negatively on their magic power and ability to use that power.  So given even just these examples, I highly doubt incest or incestous breedings are looked upon positively let alone as common or acceptable.  Another bit of evidence is Tatsuya's dad.  If the Yotsuba were really all about inbreeding they would have breed powerful family members.  Tatsuro was not that powerful he just had a high psion count, but one reason he is likely chosen is because he is either a distant cousin or not related at all but would provide a benefit to their bloodline. 

      Plus, why do you think that there ARE 10 Master Clans, 18 Assisstant Houses, 100 Families, and a few strong outlaying Ancient Magic User and borderline power families and extra clans?  Because that is more breeding materal.  Another bit of proof is the practice of allied Magican Family intermarriages.  Do you think nations so worried about national pride and secrecy that doesnt even let magicians travel freely would allow that if they are so opposed to lack of fresh bloodlines?

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    • Please let this be a harem ending. Everybody happy

      Onii-sama will have his own Ten Master Clans.

      Anyway i cant wait the next volume! Damn it i want to know what their friends reaction to the whole engagement thing.

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    • By the dark angel

      to Eagle eyes98

      When I was reading the LN i dont remeber seeing that the future was dominated by christianity in the mahouka verse. and yes i know tatsuya has mis giving about incest, but not because it a christain dominated country, more like current social norms says no to it. And by me bringing up past genearations and different time periods, it was to point out to people(if you didnt get I should have pointed it out in simpler way to it make easier to understnad) what we hold true now may not be so in the future(and trends or accepted ideas from the past tend to comeback later on(from half a century to thousands of years later), and to keep your mind open.And wait for the author to reveal what he has in store for the series(since so many complain about the pairing destroying the story and all that). And i will apologize me exploding about the japanese culture things, but i wanted people to understand, we find them strange from time to time, but they also find others strange as well, And using there culture as a way to explain this and that in a negative light is rude to say the least(no matter if some are true or just plain racist and stereo typing)at least say in non offensive way, least offensive or say nothing at all. That was all i wanted to say, and thank you eagle eye98 for pointing out  that I sounded haughty and stuff.

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    • I mean, you're welcome I guess...

      If there is no change specifically indicated, one is to assume the status of the current time of predicament. And your point about Tatsuya drifting away from it because it's not the social norm is enough to prove my point about it being immoral in the mahouka verse, glad we agree on that. Never in history has something that was abandoned by society reappeared in society, ever. Things may be brought back from old times by cults and what not, but society has never taken anything back under its wing. It's a common saying, that if one does not remember their history, they are doomed to repeat it. Repeating history isn't a popular practice, being that the only repetitions are reenactments of famous battles throughout history so I don't really see why a society of any kind, weird or not, would bring the practice of incest to carry on a bloodline. Refer to what Epimondas said, there is plenty of breeding material there equivalent to or greater than the power of the top families in magic for the practice of incest to considered unnecessary thus creating its immoral standing. And if you ever need me to tell you when you get high and mighty again, just ask. I'm sure I'll be around.

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    • From Dark Angel

      toEagle eyes98

      thank you. and see you around

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    • Partial Translation

      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R5xM1KoU6c7iWuH6T1Cp-A8bBV04EgHStkz98XvOfmw/edit?pli=1

      It's a little more than what has been released and will be updated frequently.

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    • I do not recall referencing any religion.  And as far as your point goes, it has no bearing on what I said.  Sure there were past cultures that allowed that and some even encouraged or demanded it but most of them are long in the past.  Even if you take into account the Earth population in the story however, it is still along the lines of at least the 20th century and thus the world has more than enough people to avoid that.  No, what I said was based upon the very setting the author himself created.  It is frowned on and also that is why there is a push to breed magicians to a wider range of bloodlines and even crossing international boundaries to accomplish that.  If he had made some previous setting where it made sense to the story or some special circumstance then it might not feel so out of place, now, but in fact he does the reverse.  He spends much of the story telling us how wrong or bad it is and cites some examples of how poor the magician born is.  He also constantly has the siblings themselves tell  others how wrong it is and how they do not see it that way.  The only thing that really wavers or makes us wonder is Miyuki's occasional thinking, emotions, and behavior at very critical times.  But they are not super frequently and even Tatsuya himself says when she reacts unexpectedly that she misread the nuance of what he meant.  The only other thing that may warp that story is the so called marriage arrangement rumored to occur in one of the newer volumes.  However that seems pretty out of place too.

      What makes such an arrangement out of place even more than the fact they are siblings however is not the taboo nature but, Maya herself.  She has stated all along and compelled Tatsuya all along to act like a guardian and that he was nothing more than a tool.  The family she directs never acknowledges him or even greets him.  And yet, SUDDENLY?  He inexplicably becomes human and a magician at that so that he would qualify to marry the heir?   That just screams wrong on so many levels.  It does not match the story or setting at all up to this point and, honestly even more for the reasons I just said than just the taboo incest angle.  Another thing, if there is a marriage arrangement, I would honestly be forced to guess that it was in fact only a ploy to protect her and not a real marriage set up.  It is somewhat implied by the fact the Ten Clans Meeting brings up potential partners.  My guess is, Maya wants someone more powerful or she already has a potential partner for Miyuki in mind but has not been able to arrange it yet so to stave off feelers by the clans she creates this false marriage.  That would make far more sense than an actual marriage arrangement.

      Nothing in the story prepares us readers for a situation where Tatsuya suddenly is not blood related (though he is if he is either her half brother or 1st cousin) or where he suddenly is acknowledged as human or acknowledged and accepted as an actual magician.  All those things throughout the series that he has been flat out denied and to suddenly change that, spins the head.  Another reason might be because she thinks he is about to betray the clan, but honestly that makes even less sense because if Miyuki marries Tatsuya, she would have even less reason to stay loyal to the Yotsuba if Tatsuya does betray them.

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    • Epimondas, I feel the exact same way. Volume 16 was not great at all in that regard, it seemed to me to deviate from what the author has previously stated and how other characters suddenly accept Tatsuya. They abruply went from hating to sucking up to him, I am talking about Maya as well as the younger generation of heir candidates like Yuuka and Katsushige. I have read the volume, to be honest it felt incredibly focused on family drama and the reveals about Miyuki the perfect creation, Maya's "revenge", and Tatsuya the world destroyer just seemed fanfiction tier. I hope the author reverts back to more magic in the next arc and that it won't disappoint. Even the demonstration of baryon lance was rather overly done to the point of seeming forced.

      I think the author is just pandering to incestfags now and has abandoned some of his earlier points he made about modified magicians etc. as you stated. Of course I hoe to be wrong, but for now I felt like the story went from being about sci-fi magic to being a harlequin romance of Miyuki and Tatsuya. Before someone accuses of being a shipper, I'm not, I just happen to like the story for the magic aspect and politics and don't particularly like the romance.

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    • Man, I thought we were on the same side here....

      I don't see why you said your argument had no standing on what I was saying, because it does...both point to the fact of incestuous behavior being wrong in the light novel. If I warped what you said then I apologize but I didn't try to. I didn't say you brought up religion, all I did was use the context of your previous to reiterate what I had to say and strengthen my side of an argument, I meant nothing against you. I completely and totally agree with every aspect of incest you had to say regarding the light novel. However....there is a marriage arrangement, multiple translators have confirmed it from what I can tell. My guess is now in line with many others, I think Maya wants some kind of super awesome magician that she'll be able to control because she can't control Tatsuya and Miyuki is also slipping through her fingers. Though the possibility of this whole thing being a bluff my Maya? I like it, but I don't know what the end game would be. It's fun to think about though.

      And I don't really see how this volume wouldn't revolve around a romance aspect of the story. Brother and sister got engaged, after the sister has been swooning over him for the entirety of the light novel. I could see how thing might start to drift that way. But, while I am a fan of the ships, the magic and the science behind everything is what drew me in to begin with, and what has kept me reading. If the magic aspect fades into the shadow of the romance, I will be disappointed.

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    • I don't understand all the fuss about morality.. I disagree with incest (siblings, parent-child love only) in real world because it's outright immoral and ruin the family tree (affecting the child lineage), and it's a taboo known worldwide.. but, this is mahoukaverse not our world, so I accept for what it is and its morality.. you know at the dark age, slavery is common sense? but now slavery is a despicable act.. What I mean is when you read literary/fiction work, you need to distinguish between our world and their world, and accept it for what it is.. What you think as immoral, does not necessarily apply for them who have different views from us..

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    • Except that even in their world incest isn't viewed favorably and neither is human experimentation. So it's not even about having to distinguish between reality and fiction because if anything their world is more conservative than ours. With everything from how they dress, have arranged marriages, and Tatsuya also frowned upon Kanon and Isori sharing a room at 9SC even though they are engaged. In volume 15 Tatsuya makes a comment on gays too, some women were lusting over Miyuki and he didn't like it he had no problems with Masaki clearly staring at her though.

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    • Thanks for the Link 

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    • Updated file link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R5xM1KoU6c7iWuH6T1Cp-A8bBV04EgHStkz98XvOfmw/edit?pli=1

      This is now translated up to the beginning of chapter four. I will keep updating.

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    • 166.137.240.83 wrote: Except that even in their world incest isn't viewed favorably and neither is human experimentation. So it's not even about having to distinguish between reality and fiction because if anything their world is more conservative than ours. With everything from how they dress, have arranged marriages, and Tatsuya also frowned upon Kanon and Isori sharing a room at 9SC even though they are engaged. In volume 15 Tatsuya makes a comment on gays too, some women were lusting over Miyuki and he didn't like it he had no problems with Masaki clearly staring at her though.

      except that what you said is only limited towards certain individual's opinion and not the whole mahoukaverse.. after received Maya's explanation even Tatsuya seems agree and cannot come out with an irrefutable argument towards Maya about fiancee thing and finally agree to it..

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    • 104.243.243.90 wrote:
      Partial Translation

      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R5xM1KoU6c7iWuH6T1Cp-A8bBV04EgHStkz98XvOfmw/edit?pli=1

      It's a little more than what has been released and will be updated frequently.

      thank you so much!

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    • 118.100.232.38 wrote:

      166.137.240.83 wrote: Except that even in their world incest isn't viewed favorably and neither is human experimentation. So it's not even about having to distinguish between reality and fiction because if anything their world is more conservative than ours. With everything from how they dress, have arranged marriages, and Tatsuya also frowned upon Kanon and Isori sharing a room at 9SC even though they are engaged. In volume 15 Tatsuya makes a comment on gays too, some women were lusting over Miyuki and he didn't like it he had no problems with Masaki clearly staring at her though.

      except that what you said is only limited towards certain individual's opinion and not the whole mahoukaverse.. after received Maya's explanation even Tatsuya seems agree and cannot come out with an irrefutable argument towards Maya about fiancee thing and finally agree to it..

      Human experimentation and incest is frowned upon in their worldby society. It's not just a personal thing. Maya may accept it but the rest of the world clearly doesn't otherwise 1) Miyuki would have never felt shame to have those type of feelings for Tatsuya to begin with 2) the Kudou wouldn't be keeping the nature of Minoru's condition a secret 3) their schoolfriends wouldn't be raising eyebrows or acting distant knowing they are siblings and lastly 4) if it was so accepted in their universe Maya wouldn't have to lie to the branches and TMC that Tatsuya is her "son" and they are cousins.

      Incest isn't accepted in the Mahoukaverse, period. I've given you plenty of examples. It's not about extending our morality into their world, their universe clearly looks down upon it, it may even be illegal like human exerimemtation.

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    • I dont think the author lost his focus, more like he wanted to get all the family drama out of the way. This volume is called Yotsuba succession so of course it has to be about the Yotsuba's I feel like he needed to clarify a lot of things about the family before moving on to other stuff. I'm a hardcore Tatsuya and Miyuki shipper, she is the only one strong and worthy enough to be by his side. I throw all my moral values out the window whenever I read fiction.

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    • Volume 17 comes out on Aug 8th.

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    • Mahesvara wrote: Volume 17 comes out on Aug 8th.

      Family history =/ family dorama and they way it was presented read like a harlequin romance all from Miyuki's "confession" to her "wedding dress" it was pretty bad. It felt like the author really cheapened the plot of the story by letting the romance take over instead of letting the story by about magic and this future universe on the constant brink of war. I honestly don't care whether Tatsuya ends up with Miyuki, all of them or none of them. Miyuki is a terribly developed character that is more of a plot device than an actual character.

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    • 166.137.244.118 wrote

      Family history =/ family dorama and they way it was presented read like a harlequin romance all from Miyuki's "confession" to her "wedding dress" it was pretty bad. It felt like the author really cheapened the plot of the story by letting the romance take over instead of letting the story by about magic and this future universe on the constant brink of war. I honestly don't care whether Tatsuya ends up with Miyuki, all of them or none of them. Miyuki is a terribly developed character that is more of a plot device than an actual character.

      Romance taking over? It was one volume, so relax. Idk why you are ranting about your complaints about the recent volume to me.

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    • I quoted the wrong person, sorry. Meant guy above you. It was one volume but the volume indicated a shift in story and tone.

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    • All is well if Tatsuya accept it, regardless of our irritation about the incest or not.. The people just being stubborn to accept the TatsuyaxMiyuki as a couple even though Maya's explanation about the child conceive is already clear, and she's also offered herself to become Tatsuya's "mother". it is a normal for "cousin's marriage" in 10MC, or in Yotsuba.. People just so hung up over their siblings love and because they support another pairing that already sunk deeply.. As for me, I would love for Tatsuya to have a harem, author should read Mushoku Tensei to get a better view of it..

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    • 118.100.232.38 wrote:
      All is well if Tatsuya accept it, regardless of our irritation about the incest or not.. The people just being stubborn to accept the TatsuyaxMiyuki as a couple even though Maya's explanation about the child conceive is already clear, and she's also offered herself to become Tatsuya's "mother". it is a normal for "cousin's marriage" in 10MC, or in Yotsuba.. People just so hung up over their siblings love and because they support another pairing that already sunk deeply.. As for me, I would love for Tatsuya to have a harem, author should read Mushoku Tensei to get a better view of it..

      Miyuki, Mayumi, Erika, and Honoka= End game antagonists? Tatsuya is stressed out enough as is chief. Imangine a household with magic flying around all the time, it would be wonderful though.

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    • thanks big time.

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    • thanks a lot

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    • Thank you very much this is amazing... so excited to see how it all finishes in this volume

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    • 155.254.99.37 wrote:
      Updated translation 

      Now translated up to chapter five.

      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R5xM1KoU6c7iWuH6T1Cp-A8bBV04EgHStkz98XvOfmw/edit?usp=sharing


      Thank you very much.. Keep up the good work

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    • Thank you very much

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    • 155.254.99.37 wrote: Updated translation 

      Now translated up to chapter five.

      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R5xM1KoU6c7iWuH6T1Cp-A8bBV04EgHStkz98XvOfmw/edit?usp=sharing

      thanks sir.. can we have u pls add me as your friend so that we can talk more about anime related things. https://www.facebook.com/christopher.vicente.54

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    • thanks for the translations sir.. i really appreciate it :D

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    • Thanks for the translation dude n.n

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    • 155.254.99.37 wrote:
      Updated translation 

      Now translated up to chapter five.

      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R5xM1KoU6c7iWuH6T1Cp-A8bBV04EgHStkz98XvOfmw/edit?usp=sharing

      Thank  for the translation.

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    • thank for the translation

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    • if this translation was updated when you said it was, why am i not seeing any new content in the document? just curious as i have tried re-opening it like 20 times haha and still no luck.... it was updated 3 days ago, but i only see from the previous update mentioned before that, which was ch. 2? or something like that.

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    • Well it loads up to chapter 5 for me.

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    • 50.153.238.142 wrote:
      if this translation was updated when you said it was, why am i not seeing any new content in the document? just curious as i have tried re-opening it like 20 times haha and still no luck.... it was updated 3 days ago, but i only see from the previous update mentioned before that, which was ch. 2? or something like that.

      Me too, the last update (3 day ago) is at chapter 5. Try a change of browser or delete the browser cache..

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    • Hey guys, do you think that now that tatsuya will be acknowledged as mayas son he'll have a nickname like ichijo. Something like the dark prince or prince of night since hes mother is the queen of night??

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    • He already has one.  Maheshvara.

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    • which is very apt i might add.

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    • but that is classified. tatsuya the person is not linked to maheshvara. i think what is meant here is a nickname for tatsuya as yotsuba maya's son and not the special lieutenant.

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    • Exactly,  cause the guy called him destroy or god of destruction during the lina arc but as son of maya and member of the yotsuba they should call him something maybe silver if they reveal that

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    • Well it probably wouldn't be "Prince of Night" since his abilities have nothing to do with Maya's Night.  I guess I'm not a huge fan of nicknames...that was already taken to its ultimate in Shakugan no Shana when everyone and their dog had a big flowery nickname, and outside of Ichijou and Kichijouji I haven't seen them used in the story ("Sirius" is an alias that reflects Angie Kudou Shields' rank among the STARS, not a nickname).  But if he were to get one, it would have to be one bestowed by the people who interact with him.  Up to this point he's just been "Miyuki's onii-sama".  If he becomes publicly known as a Strategic-Class Magician then I think it would make some sense to formally tag him with Maheshvara, just for the shock/deterrent value on Japan's foes.  Until then, we would have to look to his known accomplishments as Tatsuya for potential nicknames. 

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    • Ah, just remembered two more..."Illusion Blade" Chiba Naotsugu and "Man-eating Tiger" Lu Gonghu, both nicknames related to their primary skills.  Tatsuya's known primary skills are his engineering prowess, his seeming indestructibility and his ninjutsu training from the Kokonoe school.  So maybe "Immortal Ninjineer?" :)

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    • I'm betting his next alias to be revealed to the public will be Mr.Silver

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    • Yes, because it will make him fit to be Miyuki partner to other people eyes.

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    • Ummm.... doesn't Tatsuya already have a few nicknames?

      "Mahesvara" "God of Destruction" "The Destroyer"

      I think it's already taken.... even if he is revealed as a Yotsuba child, at some point, his power is now going to be known... can't be hidden forever, many nations are already figuring it out, and in the end, it'd give the Yotsuba (Miyuki) more power.

      At most, they'd add "The Yotsuba's" in front of his name...

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    • They probably only reveal Tatsuya as as a silver at 10MC Conference.

      To reveal secret like Mahesvara probably will cause a problem to Yotsuba. Quote from Katsuhige Osamu “That overwhelming power is a danger to the stability of the world. We seek a power in which no one will become a victim. We do not wish for the power to shake the world"

      One more thing Yotsuba doesn't want more power or fames,

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    • If i going to ask on how the story will end i hope that Tatsuya's emotions will be back on him because as for know he is no different to a  human android/robot who have no emotions,i mean he has already have a limiter that limits his powers,also having have a full emotions it will help to further to develop his interactions to others to recognize him as a human not a monster/tools

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    • True, they don't want more power, but they do want to keep their standing, and they need stuff to back up Miyuki and show Tatsuya's worth as a battle magician... she and Tatsuya are just suddenly going to be known to the world as Yotsuba (which was why I put "Miyuki" in parenthesis next to "Yotsuba").

      The Yotsuba didn't want someone as powerful as Tatsuya, and are afraid of using his powers, but considering his position, it'd seem unlikely that he won't get revealed anyways. It'd still be to their advantage since they need to show their magic standing at the conference... They don't want to shake the world, but they don't wish to lose their place either...

      @Ashzure

      Not really; the dude DOES have emotions.. they just aren't as extreme... so he could get pissed, so its like a dude that can control his emotions (note:I said "like")...

      Tatsuya can be attracted to women (he has shown some attraction), he is able to be embarrassed and self conscious... it's just that he can only be extreme when Miyuki is involved.

      So he is far from a monster when it comes to being emotionless.... he acts more emotionless than he really is.... other than his ability to go to the extremes, his emotional range isn't much different than the average person.

      Course, in the end, I don't think it'd change his relationships that much, just make him less controlled and less reliable.

      So he's just not controlled by his emotions... in a way, he's actually quite lucky.... only downside is that Miyuki is his only extreme and she's his little sister... though I do wonder if her being so hot that you wouldn't care makes it better (for us, she's a drawing, but to the people in their world... she makes people not care about social norms... even Tatsuya was able to be charmed by her.... though he has been charmed a bit by Lina, Mayumi, and Erika... but he has the "she's my sister" protection against her).

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    • Well, IMO it is Maya's wishes to put Tatsuya at the center of the magicians. She wants either Tatsuya to destroy the world or the world to live in fear due to Tatsuya.. It is why she doesn't want to separate Miyuki and him in the first place, (because Miyuki is the trigger for this and the only one Tatsuya have emotional relation too).. So, it is very likely,  that Maya will uncover everything or leak everything about Tatsuya's deeds (Scorch Halloween, Mahesvara, Ooguro Ryuya or Silver Taurus) to achieve what she wants..

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    • 155.254.99.37 wrote: Updated translation 

      Now translated up to chapter five.

      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R5xM1KoU6c7iWuH6T1Cp-A8bBV04EgHStkz98XvOfmw/edit?usp=sharing

      it opens to chapter 4 only

      Cant find this specific file 

      PLEASE HELP..

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    • Probably chapter 5 is still on progress. 

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    • If you see 73 pages like me, then it's normal.

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    • Deathmailrock wrote:
      True, they don't want more power, but they do want to keep their standing, and they need stuff to back up Miyuki and show Tatsuya's worth as a battle magician... she and Tatsuya are just suddenly going to be known to the world as Yotsuba (which was why I put "Miyuki" in parenthesis next to "Yotsuba").

      The Yotsuba didn't want someone as powerful as Tatsuya, and are afraid of using his powers, but considering his position, it'd seem unlikely that he won't get revealed anyways. It'd still be to their advantage since they need to show their magic standing at the conference... They don't want to shake the world, but they don't wish to lose their place either...

      @Ashzure

      Not really; the dude DOES have emotions.. they just aren't as extreme... so he could get pissed, so its like a dude that can control his emotions (note:I said "like")...

      Tatsuya can be attracted to women (he has shown some attraction), he is able to be embarrassed and self conscious... it's just that he can only be extreme when Miyuki is involved.

      So he is far from a monster when it comes to being emotionless.... he acts more emotionless than he really is.... other than his ability to go to the extremes, his emotional range isn't much different than the average person.

      Course, in the end, I don't think it'd change his relationships that much, just make him less controlled and less reliable.

      So he's just not controlled by his emotions... in a way, he's actually quite lucky.... only downside is that Miyuki is his only extreme and she's his little sister... though I do wonder if her being so hot that you wouldn't care makes it better (for us, she's a drawing, but to the people in their world... she makes people not care about social norms... even Tatsuya was able to be charmed by her.... though he has been charmed a bit by Lina, Mayumi, and Erika... but he has the "she's my sister" protection against her).

      Even so im still want Tatsuya's emotions will be back on him,because it makes him a "real" human.In order to Tatsuya appreciate Miyuki as woman not as a sister(as we know the only emotions he has know is "familial" love to his sister and hate related to his sisters suffering)  he need a stable/complete emotions to do that.Why? It is because when you enters a love relationship you need those emotions to come with better understanding,as we know sometimes Tatsuya's fail to understand "mixed emotions" which is very common to all females,that's why his classmates called him a human with a cold personality even it is not true. I think also the two ( Tatsuya and Miyuki ) will have a very big problems in future because of his(Tatsuya) lack of emotions. As we know in two Miyuki puts a two much effort to make her emotions as a woman in order to reach on him,which  is not right in the case of couples.I believe having a full sense of emotions brings up mutual relation to each other.


      Leave that aside i think when Miyuki succeeded maya i think she will turn only as a puppet leader and the real leader is tatsuya himself,as i read this series almost of Miyuki's decision( even the decision which doesn't require Tatsuya to interfare) is being influenced by tatsuya.Also in the two,even tatsuya is said to be the "guardian" of Miyuki whose role is to protect; position is reversed because Miyuki as the one who overprotects tatsuya as she almost killed the person who try to provoke or fight Tatsuya.

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    • Miyuki CAN make decisions on her own, but at the same time, she has Tatsuya, one of the most objective people around, and he knows a lot of sh*t... she showed many times that she actually has the ability to think properly, but she also gets 2nd opinions from Tatsuya...

      And to be honest, Tatsuya and Miyuki practically had a couples mentality for a while...

      Miyuki had to put a lot of effort because Tatsuya couldn't believe that his imouto would be in love with him... cause from the moment she showed her care for him, it was always romantic....

      She loved him that way for so long that he didn't realize it was romantic... but he is perceptive towards other people (Honoka) that way.

      Tatsuya has most of the necessary emotions necessary to relate to humans... while not as extreme (except around Miyuki)... anger, jealousy, attraction, self loathe, regret... he has that stuff...

      And he probably would be able to love Miyuki as a woman.... it said that Tatsuya's feelings for Miyuki was kept... at the time, he was only able to show her brotherly love. So that isn't to say that he can't love her romantically... towards Miyuki, he may be able to do that (though because he doesn't have anything else to compare it too except love towards friends, it could be debatable if it was really only sibling love).

      Over all, his restricted emotions are an advantage in this political stuff, and in romance, for at least Miyuki, its an advantage since his focus would only be on Miyuki... so he will be fine in that regard.

      Besides, how would he get them back? The way it was taken away was more like the got rid of the stronger emotional parts and made the brain calculate magic better (which Tatsuya actually likes as a power). It isn't something that just be returned... it's like controlled brain damage (and really, just an excuse to make for why he is so freakin controlled).

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    • Although he still has a emotions,all of his remaining emotions are all related to Miyuki,but as a human,he didn't know how to interact proper to other people( although he tried his best to do it) based on their emotions that's why his peers who is very close to him called him a "cold".I think that's why Miyuki is always follow him and when it necessary threathens the others who fail to undestand tatsuya.


      Well even so having a full emotions makes you a better human,although it has a merits and demerits still it makes your decisions makes you better for the future and also it will the way to understand on how your other purposes was,sadly that thing is removed from him,believing himself as know a tool who serves for Yotsuba especially for Miyuki because of his incapable to decide on it's own,and makes him "chained".


      Although it seems it is impossible that his emotions will be back on him,i was hoping that having a miracle that his emotions from know will grow enough to appreciate the other people thoughts on him and understand it breaking his "cold personality" when it comes to other people.Also if his emotions back,i believe that has a great impact on his character development.


      Well this is only my thoughts on Tatsuya's character,im just i can't understand his emotional deficiency and it's effects on others,don't take it seriously...

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    • @Ashzure

      No, he still has emotions for stuff not related to Miyuki... it's just that Miyuki is the only one he can go to the more emotional extremes.

      Tatsuya can be annoyed, angry, jealous, happy, feel soft spots, hopeful, and sad by things just like an ordinary person... it's just that Miyuki is the only thing he could get an absolute passion for.

      The difference for ordinary people is that we usually have some parts of us that are a bit more extreme... Tatsuya has shown attraction, fear, humiliation and other human emotions.

      He is kept with enough emotion to be human, but not enough to go out of control... except when Miyuki is involved.

      So he is actually plenty human in the emotion department...

      Rather than cold Tatsuya is controlled. He has enough emotion to understand and relate to other humans, but not enough to be controlled by his emotions.

      The way he treats his friends shows that he actually does have emotion and treasures his friends. And his fear of Mayumi is also existent :P

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    • 104.243.243.8 wrote:

      Now translated up to the beginning of chapter six.

      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R5xM1KoU6c7iWuH6T1Cp-A8bBV04EgHStkz98XvOfmw/edit

      thanks you boss

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    • damn this novel is really awesome, I cant wait to read the updates, I almost have sleepless nights thinking what will happen next, guys do you think I'm normal? I always read about threads about spoilers/updates about MKNR light novel before I sleep, and all I care about is seeing the updates from all of you, I dont even do my homework for school anymore(LOL), I guess I'm too addicted already, I hope we lose internet connection at home so I can temporarily get over with this addiction :D

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    • 112.202.81.131 wrote:
      damn this novel is really awesome, I cant wait to read the updates, I almost have sleepless nights thinking what will happen next, guys do you think I'm normal? I always read about threads about spoilers/updates about MKNR light novel before I sleep, and all I care about is seeing the updates from all of you, I dont even do my homework for school anymore(LOL), I guess I'm too addicted already, I hope we lose internet connection at home so I can temporarily get over with this addiction :D


      you're really abnormal man.

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    • 112.202.81.131 wrote:
      damn this novel is really awesome, I cant wait to read the updates, I almost have sleepless nights thinking what will happen next, guys do you think I'm normal? I always read about threads about spoilers/updates about MKNR light novel before I sleep, and all I care about is seeing the updates from all of you, I dont even do my homework for school anymore(LOL), I guess I'm too addicted already, I hope we lose internet connection at home so I can temporarily get over with this addiction :D


      You're not abnormal, just obsessed :)  But seriously, don't let it interrupt your schoolwork.  Been there done that, wasn't pretty.

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    • Hmmm....,the light novel implied that Miya removed all Tatsuya's emotions except his love for Miyuki.Further more it adds that he doesn't possess the ability to hate nor can he feel any strong emotions like fury, fear, despair, envy, hatred, disgust, gluttony, lust, sloth, and love (with one exception ) but this emotions can be express "natural" on Miyuki and anything related to her. 

      Since in the beginning of the series it shows that he can express an emotions but only limited, it explains two things;

      1.Miya's action on removing all Tatsuya's emotions was not totally successfull rather it only limit his ability to express,recognize emotions on others beside's Miyuki.

      2. It is possible that Tatsuya train/trying himself in expressing his emotions naturally to others specially of his friends by using his ability to express emotions on Miyuki as a guide(or ultimately his instructor);on other words he trying to  expand his ability to express emotions "naturally" on others as he know that in not all times Miyuki is always his side to help him to express his intentions through emotions.

      What i point is,i hope that Tatsuya breaks the wall of having a limited emotions or at least his missing emotions,return to him(which is probably impossible),because it gives a problem on him especially on his living with Miyuki as his wife and also his interaction with their children as we know children are very emotional..

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    • If he suceed break the wall of his limited emotion like u say, i think Tatsuya will learn that his love to Miyuki is brotherly love and probably he will start to love other women.

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    • Macho44 wrote:
      If he suceed break the wall of his limited emotion like u say, i think Tatsuya will learn that his love to Miyuki is brotherly love and probably he will start to love other women.

      And it's the beginning of the greatest love story ever : Tatsuya x Mayumi

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    • Macho44 wrote:
      If he suceed break the wall of his limited emotion like u say, i think Tatsuya will learn that his love to Miyuki is brotherly love and probably he will start to love other women.

      See, why not love Miyuki AND another women? That way, Tatsuya gets the best of both worlds. He then gets to experience love of a sibling AND love of a women. Also, if his women doesn't work out, he always has Miyuki to cheer him up! ^^

      Satou, please give Tats his emotions back.

      Please.

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      And it's the beginning of the greatest love story ever : Tatsuya x Mayumi

      I can not wait to see her pain and suffering in the next volume.

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    • Just stop now, don't turn this thread into a pairing war...

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    • Macho44 wrote:
      If he suceed break the wall of his limited emotion like u say, i think Tatsuya will learn that his love to Miyuki is brotherly love and probably he will start to love other women.

      if is the case then it will better on him because it really measures how he love Miyuki,because he can easily differentiate the sibling love and romantic love.

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    • What if the entire time tatsuya actually had emotions to the extent that others had, he just was so calculating at nature after the experiment that when he retained emotions he was able to supress them as a ploy to trick the system maya had devised? - currently it appears that maya has won in reguards to controlling the power that is tatsuya. Could be an interesting turn out. ^.^

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    • Interesting theory but incredibly unlikely I'd say.  It'd require him to lie to Miyuki which I don't think is possible.

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    • 120.145.162.226 wrote:
      What if the entire time tatsuya actually had emotions to the extent that others had, he just was so calculating at nature after the experiment that when he retained emotions he was able to supress them as a ploy to trick the system maya had devised? - currently it appears that maya has won in reguards to controlling the power that is tatsuya. Could be an interesting turn out. ^.^

      it may be interesting and that's good to hear,but it seems likely impossible because according to light novel Miya removed some part in tatsuya's brain which is responsible on emotions..

      Actually when i read that part,i feel hate to her for that actions in his own son even i some pages it said that transplanting "that thing" on tatsuya's brain is still  possible without removing that part of the brain and base on that it's clearly that she hate and never love his son,also she is the responsible why tatsuya becomes a guardian which gives him  an unequal treat among the other members in very inhumane way...

      Also if im going to choose who will be Tatsuya's pair when his emotions if return i will choose the other girls except Miyuki,because pairing with her which means that,goal of Miya in totally controlling him will be on success because there's no way to escape on that responsibility,i will accept her only has tatsuya's pair if she going to demolished/destroyed Maya and other related on her that cause why Tatsuya's suffer lacks of emotions,or at least try to change or reformed the whole Yotsuba,

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    • 120.145.162.226 wrote:
      What if the entire time tatsuya actually had emotions to the extent that others had, he just was so calculating at nature after the experiment that when he retained emotions he was able to supress them as a ploy to trick the system maya had devised? - currently it appears that maya has won in reguards to controlling the power that is tatsuya. Could be an interesting turn out. ^.^

      That would require such a huge asspull I really don't hope that's the case

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    • Than many would be dead by now!

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    • Ashzure wrote:

      120.145.162.226 wrote:

      Actually when i read that part,i feel hate to her for that actions in his own son even i some pages it said that transplanting "that thing" on tatsuya's brain is still  possible without removing that part of the brain and base on that it's clearly that she hate and never love his son,also she is the responsible why tatsuya becomes a guardian which gives him  an unequal treat among the other members in very inhumane way...

      did you even read spoilers properly in this volume we have been explicitly told the reasons behind maya reasons and surgery.Its like we are reading different story.
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    • 95.90.227.143 wrote: Than many would be dead by now!

      What??!! Are you sure? Its all abwt NATURE vs NURTURE. No matter what a monster you are, with such power you hold for as long as you were nurtured right (taught values, respect for human life) its all gonna turn out right. If Miya had just done her role as 'mother', took responsibility e.g. helping tatsuya to DEAL with his emotions and properly handle them starting from when he was still very young he will not stray when hes older. Thats the responsibility parents have with their children. Sending tatsuya to the yotsuba guardian assasin training camp (6 yrs old) knowing full well of the power he holds, teaching him to kill, DIDNT do the world a favor. Im just wondering whether in the world of mahouka all the parenting or psychology books were burned in ww3 bec the characters seem to have lost common sense.

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    • 49.14.231.66 wrote:
      did you even read spoilers properly in this volume we have been explicitly told the reasons behind maya reasons and surgery.Its like we are reading different story.

      I read that very well,although maybe she has a good reason but the thing is,her actions and intentions makes Tatsuya's life ruined;Let's answer this ; how  a child who has suffer a difficulty to use or incapable to use a magic can capable to destroy the  world with just having a strong emotions that a normal human should possess?Come to think of that.. Also having to be Miyuki's fiancee is be enough to overturn all damages that she have done to Tatsuya? It is very clear that she want to takes a advantage on Tatsuya's psion amount that's why she do the operation,but because Tatsuya becomes a powerful to be frightened even herself that's why she permit the removal of emotions  to makes a total control.

      I think , removing his emotions makes him become a destroyer worse..Because if Miyuki "dies" and the enemy is the upper echeleons of the world,obviously he will destroy the world, as he notes that he is only a "tool" whose duty is to serve Miyuki  as his first priority even the world is the cause of her death  over his friends  no more no less. Also if Miyuki's job is to serve as Tatsuya's Limiter,there's no need to modify/removed his emotions because as we know her ability to do that is enough.

      Even so, it is still not right for Maya to decide the future of Tatsuya with just some worries which is very low to be happen,If she has really a good intentions,she must not allow to do that Tatsuya becomes a Guardian/bodyguard of Miyuki. she must give Tatsuya a consideration to become a worthy successor which is never happened instead tatsuya undergo in a process to makes him really a "tool" like modifying/removed his emotions,limit his psions, amount of magic to be release and finally to become a bodyguard of his own sister,which is a totally not a work of a human who as a concern to others.It's very lucky that Miyuki finally understand that she must not need to be serve by Tatsuya because that thing is not right for a normal siblings.Although she is powerless to correct Maya's and Miya's actions i still admire her in her determination to help Tatsuya in all his needs and become his "emotions": lastly to serve him as much she can to repay all good deeds done by his brother..


      Trjpyo 

      Im totally agree with you and that's what i trying to say. :)

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    • Thank you very much for that one. It felt terrible to read the summery version.

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    • I just don`t get a certain People that they don`t understand Maya and the Yotsuba, okay 5 of 7 Heads are crazy Bastards. I think that Tatsuya is the only Person that is Important to Maya okay maybe Hayama BUT She don`t see him as a tool! She sees him as her SON! BASTA! And Miya has try to Love Tatsuya but she couldn`t. His Emotion to remove was the only Option. Maya and Miya make this Operation not for them but for Tatsuya, he would harm everyone arond him, because would his Magic go Berserk then everyone around him would be turn to DUST ! They would send to Oblivion! But I would love that that Tatsuya has Emotion for his Family just like a very good fanfic that I read ;) Yeah the Decsion from Eisaku to make Tatsuya to a Guardin was SHIT! But better then be killed. But I really really doubt don`t know why but I REALLY Doubt that Tatsuya is a Human! Maybe he is like the Sponsors and Zhou. I think this has a high Possbilty that he is not Human! And I doubt that Miyuki could stop Tatsuya even with Cocutus or whatever it is called. Sry I am german not best English :p 

      And yeah just like it sees i am a really Happy End for Tatsuya and Maya + all the Yotsuba Fan:) Hope they accept Tatsuya and Tatsuya turn the Yotsuba just like 30 Years ago to A REAL FAMILY! Thta they love each other and protect each other, too!

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    • Trjpyo wrote:

      95.90.227.143 wrote: Than many would be dead by now!

      What??!! Are you sure? Its all abwt NATURE vs NURTURE. No matter what a monster you are, with such power you hold for as long as you were nurtured right (taught values, respect for human life) its all gonna turn out right. If Miya had just done her role as 'mother', took responsibility e.g. helping tatsuya to DEAL with his emotions and properly handle them starting from when he was still very young he will not stray when hes older. Thats the responsibility parents have with their children. Sending tatsuya to the yotsuba guardian assasin training camp (6 yrs old) knowing full well of the power he holds, teaching him to kill, DIDNT do the world a favor. Im just wondering whether in the world of mahouka all the parenting or psychology books were burned in ww3 bec the characters seem to have lost common sense.

      But his Magic it too Lethal even more dangerous that Rapture! He must be just a little uppset and boom everthing around him would be turn to Nothing/Dust/Ash!

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    • 95.90.227.143 wrote:
      I just don`t get a certain People that they don`t understand Maya and the Yotsuba, okay 5 of 7 Heads are crazy Bastards. I think that Tatsuya is the only Person that is Important to Maya okay maybe Hayama BUT She don`t see him as a tool! She sees him as her SON! BASTA! And Miya has try to Love Tatsuya but she couldn`t. His Emotion to remove was the only Option. Maya and Miya make this Operation not for them but for Tatsuya, he would harm everyone arond him, because would his Magic go Berserk then everyone around him would be turn to DUST ! They would send to Oblivion! But I would love that that Tatsuya has Emotion for his Family just like a very good fanfic that I read ;) Yeah the Decsion from Eisaku to make Tatsuya to a Guardin was SHIT! But better then be killed. But I really really doubt don`t know why but I REALLY Doubt that Tatsuya is a Human! Maybe he is like the Sponsors and Zhou. I think this has a high Possbilty that he is not Human! And I doubt that Miyuki could stop Tatsuya even with Cocutus or whatever it is called. Sry I am german not best English :p 

      And yeah just like it sees i am a really Happy End for Tatsuya and Maya + all the Yotsuba Fan:) Hope they accept Tatsuya and Tatsuya turn the Yotsuba just like 30 Years ago to A REAL FAMILY! Thta they love each other and protect each other, too!


      I got your point,but still Maya done a numerous evil deeds for tatsuya and  if really she love or concerns for tatsuya;as a head of Yotsuba clan she has a power to overide Miya's decision of making Tatsuya a Guardian of his own sister which causes a multiple conflict on Tatsuya's existence;as shown in this Volume ,she can easily remove Tatsuya from it's post as a Guardian,that thing leads on me that she can do it from the start if really she has a concern on it or atleast express herself as a mother of Tatsuya,One more i can only say that Maya didn't truly love Tatsuya in the past until now  ,because she didn't believe on Tatsuya's capability to resist his fate for being a "potential destroyer,rather she takes out the chance of Tatsuya to prove it,by removing it's emotions.

      One thing i found out a inconsistency of this volume to other volumes. In volume 1 to 15 it implies that Tatsuya are incapable/difficulty to use a magic that's why the operation takes place to make him to use a magic while in this Volume(volume 16) it is seemly implied that Tatsuya are capable to use magic which gives  the function of that operation is to modify him and to limit his usage of magic by removing his emotions to lower the probabilty of his ability to destroy the world using a magic,since this is  the latest volume, it implies that Miya and Maya lied to the clan about Tatsuya's ability to use a very rare and destructible magic, especially for Miyuki who carries a burden of protecting his brother against the person which aims to detested her brother,because of being a emotionless and difficulty to use a normal magic.


      Maybe that things have  changed as now when Maya truly accept Tatsuya  in the Yotsuba clan,and further she makes him as her son.How sad that the damage she has done are seemly permanent and there's only a very little chance for Tatsuya to return his normal condition as a human,not as a human who function only for a very limited reasons on why she/he exists.

      Note:

      This is only my pure thoughts.As from now i not convinced on Maya's actions,because her actions make's favorable on her personal agenda on controlling tatsuya as well as controlling Miyuki's reign as the head,try to imagine since Maya adopted tatsuya she has a now an ability to totally influenced all Tatsuya's actions,since Miyuki is said to be the wife of Tatsuya she is also have a total control on her.Also she do it to make that her favorite successor(miyuki) gains a surname of Yotsuba legitimely,not just a title surname.

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    • 95.90.227.143 wrote: But his Magic it too Lethal even more dangerous that Rapture! He must be just a little uppset and boom everthing around him would be turn to Nothing/Dust/Ash!

      classic example of how SPOILED children react -- thats why you have parents to discipline and help the child deal with his emotions and choose an appropriate response (wish that was what Miya did). I just feel bad for tatsuya... He cant feel grief, sorrow, sympathy or compassion.

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    • Lord Odin93
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    • Thank you! how many chapter are there? 

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    • aww man, after reading that, i feel so sorry for Ayako, yet happy for Miyuki. 

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    • actually there are 7 chapters, the last 7th chapter has 4 parts and i have translated till chapter 7 part 1, 3 more parts are in queue then wolla!

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    • i combined all these translations in one file photos and chapters 1-7 part 1 

      i repeat i did not translate them but arranged them together credit goes to those who posted links earlier (did not mention names)

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    • this is volume 16

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    • 116.74.40.185 wrote: actually there are 7 chapters, the last 7th chapter has 4 parts and i have translated till chapter 7 part 1, 3 more parts are in queue then wolla!

      for volume 16, can you please do the epilogue aswell please. Is that possible?

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    • some of the last part missing..

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    • I have been asked by those who translated V15 to have it removed. 

      To whomever created and posted V15, please remove it. All traces to it on this wiki will be removed shortly. The translators only intended for the original document to become public so that those who could help in the effort to properly finish it could find interest in doing so and be recruited by seeing the translation.

      This wiki should be about discussing MKnR, not about where someone could find something or if they could have a copy. MKnR is licensed material for we as fans can do as we please to a point, however, do we want those who went through all that trouble to translate, to be given a C&D (Cease and Desist) order? No, we do not.

      Individuals such as Rasczakz whom has spearheaded his own translation of V16 can continue doing so at his own perogative. He can post the updated links to the work, but no one else can without his permission. Credit for the translations should be given and the translators should be thanked.

      Rules on translations will be created soon enough. This is a heads up to everyone. I'll be closing and removing any threads after today that continue posting or talking about the links or emails to those that have copies whether it be a word document or pdf. You are free to discuss what you have read, but nothing else. I'm not trying to be a stickler on rules, but if anyone is caught breaking any rules in the future will face the consequences.

      @All my fellow Admins and Moderators. We can discuss the exact rules about this when we can.

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    • Where will Rasczakz and those who have translated for us, as you said, will post the links? I have trouble finding it outside this wikia, thats why i am asking. 

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    • If you wish to read what he has gotten finished for V16 go to this discussion; http://mahouka-koukou-no-rettousei.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:24760.

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    • Thanks you :)

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    • Perhaps if Yen-Press used their brains and translated the latest material First and worked backwards from there people wouldn't complain and actually Buy their material.

      At the rate this is going it'll take them at least a year to translate up to the present, IF We Are LUCKY.

      God people need better marketing teams when dealing with translations.

      They would make loads of cash up front but op for lesser revenue and fan anger issues, talk about job strategy suicide.

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      to admins and moderators, please remove this post and other post related to this because this post and download link doesn't came from the original translator. how shame we take other person hard work without credit.

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    • I guess me must wait the translator to upload it,as a respect on his work.

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    • why is remowed mahouka vol 15 and chapter 7 mahouka vol 16 ?

      please somebody restore them

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    • Since link to translation no longer allowed here could anyone go to some forumes like jcafe, post links there and tell us here where you posted it, please? I know it sound selfish and certanly are hasle, but since links no longel allowed here I'm sure other people appreciate it. I am grateful to all translators who work on mahouka but since no one posted them in blogs we only have link here.

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    • please is chceck link again

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    • i wnated to get but the link are removed

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    • 79.191.179.127 wrote:
      i wanted to get but the link are removed


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    • very thanks

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    • thanks so much! been dying for this

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    • such a cheap bastard remove the link

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    • 36.75.18.161 wrote:
      such a cheap bastard remove the link

      The reason why the mods removed the link is because the series is liscenced by yen press which technically means this site was hosting illegal content copyright wise :P

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    • sigh, not like Yen Press will make a loss at any rate since they only acquired the license recently.

      It's only a violation if it is used in the public for monetary benefit on recent material. But Yen Press won't be able to translate the material for about a year.

      Different if Yen Press take on the Current volumes then yes, it would take from their profits....otherwise it makes no difference in reality, but oh well.

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    • Shiba Kel wrote:
      sigh, not like Yen Press will make a loss at any rate since they only acquired the license recently.

      It's only a violation if it is used in the public for monetary benefit on recent material. But Yen Press won't be able to translate the material for about a year.

      Different if Yen Press take on the Current volumes then yes, it would take from their profits....otherwise it makes no difference in reality, but oh well.

      You would be surprised at how bitchy they can be about copyright.

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    • I copy Lord Odin93 post

      Lord Odin93

      V15 has been translated, although it still is being TLC'ed and Edited. Incomplete copies of it have been created and shared when they shouldn't have been. Until further notice when the translation group finishes it completely and gives the go ahead, then it will be shared etc. The V15 translation won't be allowd to be posted linked to or shared on this wiki for now, in due, to respect their wishes.

      ~Just be patient, when translator is officially released the translation, if u post the link we will not delete the link until further notice. 

      ~Well, we should be graceful because got people want to translate the latest volume, if they want to released complete version of translation, please support them or their wish. So that for next volume they still translated this novel.

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    • sorry

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    • Tatsuyama wrote:
      Shiba Kel wrote:
      sigh, not like Yen Press will make a loss at any rate since they only acquired the license recently.

      It's only a violation if it is used in the public for monetary benefit on recent material. But Yen Press won't be able to translate the material for about a year.

      Different if Yen Press take on the Current volumes then yes, it would take from their profits....otherwise it makes no difference in reality, but oh well.

      You would be surprised at how bitchy they can be about copyright.

      I know...that's what annoys me about it all. sigh...stupid Yen Press....things were going so well until they stepped in and ruined it for everyone.

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    • https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=5529346&posted=1#post5529346

      check the post made by clashmore,makes me laugh everytime xD

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    • I think the whole Tatsuya going to destroy the world and miyuki going to be there for him is being foreshadowed in the ending of the anime.. just sayin

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    • I don't understand why people would fuss over Miyuki and Tatsuya potential/possible relationship. In my opinion, it's blatantly obvious since the very beginning that this LN revolved around the idea of "incest". So, the Tatsuya and Miyuki relationship should not be something that we should fuss over.. right?

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    • I aint complaining. Miyuki has loved Tatsuya more and longer than any other heroine in the series Except for ONE person, Kuroba Ayako.

      Ayako has admired and loved Tatsuya for years, since their first meet, where Tatsuya gave her the tools she would need to establish herself as "Kuroba Ayako".

      ....their engagement broke her heart....she must've had her own plan to one day free Tatsuya from his bonds as a guardian, and patiently planned and prayed for her day to come, only to have it stolen right in front of her by Lady Maya....I feel sorry for her the most, moreso than Honoka, Shizuku, Erika or Mayumi, as she, like Miyuki, knows Tatsuya's dark past and still loves him inspite of it.

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    • I was watching the anime again before Tatsuya took part in the monolith code finals. He was warming up saying:

      "I've done all I could to prepare...but if this were a real battle with no limitations....fighting the 2 of them...no....even Masaki alone....I wouldn't be able to guarrenttee victory"

      I laughed so hard thinking "Just how much do you underestimate yourself?"

      Live combat? C'mon, you can use Material Burst on any enemy force and MAKE them surrender hands down.

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    • Shiba Kel wrote:
      I was watching the anime again before Tatsuya took part in the monolith code finals. He was warming up saying:

      "I've done all I could to prepare...but if this were a real battle with no limitations....fighting the 2 of them...no....even Masaki alone....I wouldn't be able to guarrenttee victory"

      I laughed so hard thinking "Just how much do you underestimate yourself?"

      Live combat? C'mon, you can use Material Burst on any enemy force and MAKE them surrender hands down.

      Remember most of his spells are classified and he was still sealed.

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    • He szid with no limitations, so he should have thought on fighting while he's powers were unlocked. He totally underestimates himself

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    • well he does have an inferiority complex!

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    • 105.157.224.132 wrote:
      well he does have an inferiority complex!

      You are indeed correct.

      When you think about it, you realize that complex is because of how he was raised.

      Jesus, killing someone at 6 years of age. Being told Every Single Day that "You are NOT a true magician. Your power is that of Monsters. You are a body guard and Nothing more. You are a servant. Your life is Pathetic"....

      no wonder he feels like that.

      People state that "Tatsuya is too OP" well take a HARD look and see for yourself. ALL those occassion where his power was shown, he never ASKED for it.

      Public Morals Group - Miyuki was responsible for that.

      NSC Engineer - Mayumi and Miyuki both responsible for that.

      Monolith Code - Katsuto, Mari and Mayumi where responsible for That too.

      Material Burst usage - GAA Brought that upon themselves.

      Intelligence - He had been studying since he was a Child, all to make up for what he "Lacked"...according to Modern magic standards. Yoshida Mikihiko did the same after he lost His powers as well, it's the same thing, only Tatsuya had been doing it longer.

      Mikihiko not only Regained his former powers, he Surpassed them by miles after studying and applying new techniques to himself. Tatsuya has been doing that All his Life....for a crime he never had any say in....."being Born".

      Combat skills - part of his horrid fate as a Guardian at a mere Six years old

      The difference in skill between Tatsuya and his opponents all comes down to simple experience, He has More. His life dictated that he needed it for Miyuki's sake.

      In contrast, he is denied the greatest reward a person could ever want for hard work. Simple recognition. Praise isn't needed, but just being acknowledged would be good enough.

      But Tatsuya can never feel that joy. He was raised to always look down on himself....

      ....a tragic life really....

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